Mac: 00:00

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome. Tis Friday for all our live viewers, Monday for all those catching us on YouTube and all that other stuff. But y'all know what it is out here, man. Little hour late, but that's not a thing. Usually when we start an hour late, the show finna be fire anyway.

Mac: 00:18

Know what I'm You know it. The show finna be But we made it to the weekend, my guy. How was, was it spring break for your kids out that way or nah?

Blak: 00:27

Oh no, we passed that buddy. We were past that. When was spring break for your kids? Like March?

Mac: 00:39

Yeah, damn. It's technically

Blak: 00:41

Yeah, dude, they get out May 15 or some shit like that.

Mac: 00:46

Shit, when did they start? They get

Blak: 00:47

out mad

Mac: 00:48

early. When did they start over

Blak: 00:50

there? August.

Mac: 00:54

Goddamn.

Blak: 00:55

Yeah.

Mac: 00:56

Yep. Yeah, but it just finished up being spring break for our kids. I took three days of leave and we went up to Great Wolf and all that stuff. I'd tell you, man, that is a business model that is pretty solid. In one type You know, got the water park in there, all these other things, a arcade, a bowling alley, you know, order food on the app, the Overcharge.

Mac: 01:21

We spent some money in Grey. I'm like And here's the thing, it's I'm trying to phrase this right. The clientele at Great Wolf Lodge varies from from people who probably traveled, you know, a couple hours to spend some time in their Volvos and their Lexuses and stuff, to the Altimas and the Accord drivers, if you get what I'm saying. The the the vibe is all over the place in there. Right?

Mac: 01:59

So I'm just a the only people walk in there smelling like the loudest of the loud. And I'm just like, sir, this is a, sir, got kids over here.

Blak: 02:11

Family establishment.

Mac: 02:13

You got kids over here creating magic wands and do a magical quest. And you out here smelling like you you came from the the plantation of weed, my Spencer. Yeah. You know what

Blak: 02:23

I mean?

Mac: 02:24

Testing all of this stuff out. I'm like, sir, come on. What up, You about getting

Blak: 02:29

the lazy river with that? Come on my god.

Mac: 02:31

Come on. Megan and Jen in the chat, what's up ladies? What Thanks for joining us. That's another thing I wanna get to is, I don't know who has to run for office, but if anybody's running for office and one of their campaign promises is to make the lazy river lazy again. Cause that's all I really wanted to do was sit on my, the inner tube and float around this little lap of water.

Mac: 02:58

But kids was in this thing acting a whole fool, racing, bumping, pushing people. I'm just like, bro, I can't even relax in the lazy Like, it's just like the ADHD river out here, bro. Like these kids was wild. I can't do nothing at all.

Blak: 03:18

Sit down and be still.

Mac: 03:21

Yeah. Only to come back. No, we'll talk about this when but me me and the wildlife out here got beef.

Blak: 03:29

Oh, I'm yeah.

Mac: 03:30

But but If you follow him, you know. But we will get into that a bit later. But you got it, how was your week, my man?

Blak: 03:41

So, I have a revelation.

Mac: 03:43

Just

Blak: 03:44

confess real quick. So I actually got diagnosed with ADHD.

Mac: 03:56

Hey, editor, if we could go back and redact the last about forty five seconds of that Last forty five seconds of the podcast, please.

Blak: 04:06

No. So quick story. Uh-huh. So I read my sister's book. My sister, for those who don't know, she put out a book recently talking about her life with ADHD.

Blak: 04:17

Lo and behold, I never knew she had ADHD. So I was like, that's interesting. Thanks for telling me. So I ended up reading the book and like reading the book, I was like, oh my God. I had no idea.

Blak: 04:32

So I made an appointment after reading that book.

Mac: 04:34

I was

Blak: 04:35

like, I'm pretty sure I got this shit because I'm the same exact way. Lo and behold, a doctor diagnosed me with ADHD. I had no idea how ass backwards I was living out here, bro. None. I was fucked up out here.

Blak: 04:53

Oh, shit. So they put me on a prescription, And it's like been working really good, man. Like, my focus has been better. I've been sleeping better. Like, I've been way more disciplined.

Blak: 05:07

And it's weird because I'm doing that I know I noticed like, holy fuck, I was fucked up out here, bro. Like, I was hoarding shit that I didn't know. You know what I mean? Like, it's so much shit I found out about myself. I was like, damn.

Blak: 05:23

But hey, it's been it's been great. It's been it's been great being normal. For what that's worth.

Mac: 05:32

A % man. A %. But we'll go ahead and get this episode started and then we can roll in. Got a lot of stuff to talk about. Usually always happens when we take, we didn't go last week because Paul, Paul, Paul and Gedden is out here in Virginia and it just destroyed me on on Friday.

Mac: 05:54

There's no way I was gonna come up here just all that stuff, man. Like, y'all don't need to hear that or see that. We love y'all too much. But we're back and we're better than ever. And we'll go ahead and get started.

Mac: 06:08

Ladies and gentlemen, episode one sixty six of the Smoke Pit Live starts right now. Following is a presentation of the Dad Fillin Podcast Network, reminding you to always question the answers.

Blak: 06:27

Welcome to the smoke pit. It's Friday night. Come and take a load off. Come sit in the smoke pit. It's time for us to show off.

Blak: 06:35

It's been a long week. Come relaxing, get some laps, and let's talk about these brackets. And while we at it, tell me whose man's is this?

Blak: 06:44

Because I

Blak: 06:45

got questions. I'm hoping you can answer it. Get ready because you know we gonna talk a lot of shit. It's Mac and Mac. Welcome to the smoke pit.

Mac: 06:57

Yep. Y'all know what it is. Friday night mood is right. Dynamic duo, Black and Mac back on your screens for the number one streaming show on Friday nights between the hours of 8PM Eastern and 11PM Eastern. I keep saying that because you keep putting it in the atmosphere, you keep putting it in the universe, shit's about to happen.

Mac: 07:19

But we're back, episode 166, and I'll go ahead and get right into it before you get into your positive spin and your motivation and So there's this bird. And if you follow me, right, you follow me on my social media or whatnot, you would know that this bird just seems to have a problem with my vehicle. So we took my wife's car to Great Wolf Lodge, like I said. Car was parked out front, just washed it too. Washed it, went on this trip, came back.

Mac: 07:57

Like, it was legit bird shit on my car. Like, on the passenger side door closest to the house. And I'm just like, Yo, this is wild. Like, there's no trees next to me. There's no, like, shit on the roof or on the windshield or something like that.

Mac: 08:14

It's just on the side of the car. How? Like this bird just crotched over and shitted on my car. I'm just like, I take some offense to that. So I go get it washed.

Mac: 08:27

And we come back. I come in the house, we chill a couple hours. I'm a play an Xbox or whatnot. And I'm like, oh, let me run to the store to get something. Shit.

Mac: 08:37

On my car. Like like fresh. I'm like, sir. And I'm looking at the other cars. I look at my son's car parked directly in front of me.

Mac: 08:48

No shit on it. I look at my neighbor's truck next to me. No shit on it. There's a couple cars down the road with some shit on the door and stuff. I go across the street and look at the cars parked on the side of the road there, no shit on it.

Mac: 09:02

I'm like, God, the fuck. So I go get it washed. Right? I go get it washed. Wake up.

Mac: 09:11

Was it Wednesday morning? Come look out the blinds, looking outside. Look what the weather look like. Look down at my car. Shit.

Mac: 09:22

On my car. On the on the same side. I'm just like,

Blak: 09:25

yo, that bird had it out for you, bro. Had it out for you.

Mac: 09:32

It has to be. It has to be. I'm like, this is wild right now. And I go down and LJ wakes up, he's looking out there, he's just like, yo, is hilarious. He's laughing because I'm just like, yo, this bird pooped on my car again.

Mac: 09:52

You know? Because I I don't wanna cuss around him. But still, like, he knows off my back because all he hears is, Lord Jesus, this bird. And he's like, it happened So he comes out, he's checking this out. So I'm like, All right, cool, cool, cool.

Mac: 10:09

I go downstairs and the bird is chilling on side view mirror. Right? Just hanging out. Oh, he done made a home. Yeah, like that's his spot.

Mac: 10:21

He gets up there and he lets loose. I come outside and I'm thinking like, once I come outside and come down these stairs, this bird's gonna be like, Oh shit, the bird is sitting there. I get close. I get like four feet from this bird before he's like, All right. And all he does is fly across the street up in this tree, hanging out.

Mac: 10:42

He doesn't fly away like, Oh shit.

Akademics: 10:43

He's just

Mac: 10:43

like, All right, I'm up here. All right, man. I'm. All right. I'm not touching the car.

Mac: 10:49

I'm not touching it. That's how he's acting. And I'm just like, the minute I come back in his house, he gonna fly back down to my car. I know it. This bird, bird is petty as shit.

Mac: 11:03

And so I'm like, I'm angry. So that's, that's what I'm just, I, I post a video and I'm like, yo, this bird's gotta go. I got something coming into my, and people thought I was like ordering a gun or some shit. Right? I'm just, Don't kill the bird,

Akademics: 11:15

don't, I'm like, Bro, I'm

Mac: 11:15

not killing the bird, you know? So I did some Google stuff and it's just like, birds hate the smell of like peppermint oil or like, so I just ordered some peppermint oil from Amazon, you know, put it on the window seal of the door and the mirror. And I mean, no shit on my car today, right? Granted it's raining. What up, Kim Pachi?

Blak: 11:37

What up, Kim Pachi?

Mac: 11:39

But yeah, like, there's no shit, but then my neighbor's truck had a bunch shit on it. So I'm just like, well maybe the Peppermint shit is working.

Blak: 11:45

So we'll see. Your boy's

Mac: 11:49

violent, right? I'm not out to kill her. But however, if this bird overcome, like, I don't know if they adapt to the smell. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's, if I wake up and see shit on my forehead, what's Do

Blak: 12:04

they build up a tolerance?

Mac: 12:06

That's what I'm saying. I don't know. Like initially, he's probably just like, God damn, that's Let me just go shit over here. Right? And like, if I do have to get rid of the bird, if I do, might

Blak: 12:22

Sometimes decisions have to be made. Look, people.

Mac: 12:25

I might be doing it a favor because the amount of shit this bird is producing, like something is wrong with this bird. Like, tomorrow I will go up and down the street and show you the amount of shit it is packed on these cars. I'm just like, what bird has to go this much? Like, something might be wrong with I might be putting this bird out of its misery. Like this bird is probably like, I can't do anything, bubble guts all the time.

Mac: 12:55

Lord, please, somebody give me the sweet release of And I just may be, that might be my calling to help this bird.

Blak: 13:09

You never know. Here's the- You never know.

Mac: 13:12

But I'll hand it over to you, Ethodist. Part of me is like, this bird is teaching other birds that it's okay to do this. Because I'm pretty sure birds will just be like, Yo, just shit up in We're in this tree, just let loose. Now I got this cool spot. Y'all gotta check this spot out.

Mac: 13:30

You can shit and look at yourself in this window. You know what I'm saying? Yep. It's a fantastic thing. It's like you're almost looking at another bird.

Mac: 13:42

You can have a conversation with yourself in this window while you're taking a shit. Why shit in this tree when you could come down? You know what I'm saying? And they're just like, Hey, don't do that. Don't do that, man.

Mac: 13:53

That's somebody's car. They ain't gonna do shit. Watch. They're like, Oh man, bro, Robin is wild. Ricky is wild out here, Yo,

Blak: 14:04

Rob A,

Mac: 14:05

stop, man. Robin, on all the cars on that street, what they gonna do, they can't catch me, baby? They can't I'm I'm fast as fuck out here.

Blak: 14:14

I'm so fly.

Mac: 14:18

So that's where I'm at right now. Like, I I'm not asking much, bro. Like, if I was parking under a tree, bet. My fault. That's y'all house, that's where y'all do this shit.

Mac: 14:27

There ain't no tree around, you going out your way to fly out the tree to land on my cart of shit. Yep. And as Michael Jordan said in the last dance, and I took that personal. I took that personally.

Blak: 14:40

I took that personally.

Mac: 14:41

So we'll try this non violent way with the peppermint oil. It seems to be working. But Pitmasters, whether you are pro animal or not, I don't give a fuck. Will find a way prevent this bird from ever doing that again. How that happens?

Mac: 15:05

How

Akademics: 15:06

that happens?

Blak: 15:08

By any means necessary.

Mac: 15:09

It's up to Robbie.

Blak: 15:10

Yeah, exactly.

Mac: 15:12

It's up to Robbie. How he wants it to go down? I'm not gonna bring out a gun. I'm not, I'm not shooting. I'm not wasting a bullet on a Robin and possibly hitting my car.

Mac: 15:26

I'm not, but there are ways.

Blak: 15:30

There are ways.

Mac: 15:30

That's I'm gonna say. That's all I'm gonna say. But I just wanted to get that off my chest. It's kind of a dark, dark thing to start with. Then we throw it over to Black for the the positive motivational toast.

Blak: 15:48

How do where do we go from there?

Mac: 15:50

Bro, that's what you get paid the big bucks for, man.

Blak: 15:56

Alright. This week so in in light in light of everything, you know, this week this week's message for the people. If you're listening, again, you made it through another week. You may feel like there's there's work that needs to be done. In this in this game that we have, there's a lot of there's a lot of hurry up and wait, right?

Blak: 16:22

And there's a lot of maybe I'm not doing the right thing. Well, no matter who you are, no matter what you do, the magic you are looking for is in the work you're avoiding. Oh. And that's the message. Oh.

Blak: 16:40

The magic you're looking for is in the work you're avoiding. So if there's anything that you feel is unfinished or needs attention, this is the call. Fix it. Let's get it done. Let's make magic, and let's go places.

Blak: 16:58

And with that, sir, I give you a salud.

Mac: 17:03

Salud, my guy. We back on the Crown Vanilla over here, baby.

Blak: 17:14

One more week. I have I have one more week.

Mac: 17:20

I have to leave the bottle of it because last time I went through a whole bottle of Crown Apple, man. It was delicious, but it was not a good decision. But ladies and gentlemen, I tell you our last show two weeks ago was one for the books. Was a great time. Much that we uploaded a clip of the show where we're talking about Rose from Titanic.

Mac: 17:49

We uploaded a minute long clip over to our TikTok. And when I say people are very opinionated about Rose, so the video has been looked at 777,000 times and 1,700 comments. And a lot of the comments come from like people debating each other. Like we're not even instigated anything. People are just like, well, what about this?

Mac: 18:24

Cal wasn't even really So here's some major taken away points that I want you to address because we'll re upload this so we can answer them, right? Okay. Black. Counterpoint number one that a lot of people are saying is, Cal wasn't her husband. They were, it was an arranged marriage to benefit the families, and he was abusive.

Mac: 18:47

So that's why Rose blew him off and got with Jack. What say you to that? Does that absolve her of her late movie shenanigans?

Blak: 19:00

No. Not at all. It it does not. Arranged marriage or not. Rose listen.

Blak: 19:07

Okay. So, if you want to throw that portion of her of her what do you call it? Her her trashiness. If you want to throw that portion out, throw it out. Throw it out the window.

Blak: 19:19

There's still the fact that she got with this dude that she didn't even know. Right?

Mac: 19:25

Yep.

Blak: 19:27

Got it on in the window, hand on the window. Oh, that shit's so hot. But

Mac: 19:33

at

Blak: 19:33

the end of it, you know what I mean? Like, the dude dies. Why does he die? Cause Rose won't let him on the fucking door. She still gotta contend with that.

Blak: 19:47

You know what I mean?

Mac: 19:49

Side counterpoint number two. People were saying they tried to let Jack onto the door, but then the door started sinking. So that's why she didn't move over and let Jack onto the door. However, replies to those points where the Mythbusters did a show using the same dimensions of the door and had two people get on it and it does work. Floats.

Mac: 20:16

It floats just fine.

Blak: 20:17

Buoyancy is buoyancy. Wood floaty, you could save yourself.

Mac: 20:23

Right. So I feel like that counterpoint has been done away. The funniest counterpoint is, people are like, that wasn't even her husband, Cal was it? Ladies and gentlemen, what because the pictures show Cal when I mentioned her husband, that's because they don't have her husband wasn't in the movie. It was assumed, I was guessing you guys would know that she has a granddaughter.

Mac: 20:51

So after Jack passed away, she found somebody She's still in house. Got married, had kids, and her kids had kids that were old enough to have kids. She was a old bride. Yes. My thing, and the reason is, the husband you had after Jack, he died.

Mac: 21:15

You died. In the movie, it shows you in the afterlife walking up to Jack. I would assume you go to the afterlife, your husband's just like, Rose, baby. Baby, nice to see you. Aw, fuck you.

Mac: 21:28

Get the fuck out of the way. Watch out.

Akademics: 21:33

To see what

Blak: 21:33

that afterlife did do,

Mac: 21:35

Jack. I'm back, Jack. That's the part where I'm just like, the rudeness. Had a whole life with a whole nother. Had three days with this dude, and you're like 90,000,000 years old at the end of this movie.

Mac: 21:51

All the life, all the people you've known, this man gave you children, provided for you, I don't know. He passed away. The minute he died, you like, take me back to the Titanic crash site so I can go Yes.

Blak: 22:06

Blow my back out on the boat again.

Mac: 22:09

To drop a necklace worth $215,000,000 back into the ocean. Your husband, I don't know, maybe life was comfortable. Maybe you had a nice little middle class, upper middle class life. To know the life you could have had, if you had just sold that necklace or did something, because of Can Dick really be that good ladies?

Blak: 22:41

Can we? Obviously it can.

Mac: 22:43

$215,000,000 like generational wealth for your family forever, forever. You could have just sold that thing and put $5,000,000 in a random savings account. She said, Jin's like, yes. Yes. She said, yes, 1,000.

Mac: 23:05

In person's. I'm just saying, Just some of it. If you just put back in the, what was it? Whatever time, like, guess that was present day when Titanic like in the nineties, dollars '5 million back then. Put it in a savings account where you'd like make 1% interest a year.

Mac: 23:26

Yes. Ma'am.

Blak: 23:28

You threw it out of waste.

Akademics: 23:29

You're making

Blak: 23:30

it. $500,000. 5

Mac: 23:34

hundred thousand dollars guaranteed a year on 1% interest for $5,000,000 you put in a savings account.

Blak: 23:43

Exactly.

Mac: 23:44

Nah. Is what you could have But you, your family out here is struggling. Your daughter out here, I don't know what she had to sell to get you out to the crash side of the Titanic. Like, I guess I can dip into the kids' college fund so you can see this last thing before you pass away that you won't tell me about. Bloop.

Mac: 24:08

Hey. Hey. Is that a Grandma. The fuck was that? Oh, that's the heart of the ocean.

Mac: 24:18

The rare necklace. Oh, grandma, you going off this boat with that thing. Grandma, you gotta get off this boat with that. Go get it and don't come back till you bring it back.

Blak: 24:32

Yep. She said, I want that thang. I want the thang.

Mac: 24:39

Essentially, yes. Enjoy poverty, bitches. I dumped this money, this generational wealth, this family. We would never have to work again as a family. Invest it, buy a business, all at bloop.

Mac: 24:56

You don't understand. Grandma, what was that? Baby, you don't know what that dick did to me.

Blak: 25:04

Coded me up.

Mac: 25:08

Folded me like that.

Blak: 25:09

I'm in that backseat hollering. You know what I'm talking about?

Mac: 25:14

And we ain't talking about these spacious backseats you got now. Was in a model. I was in a model T. It was a model. Steel rods and cheap leather.

Mac: 25:28

Folded up like a lawn chair, baby. You don't know.

Blak: 25:31

Oh, baby. They had the cauteroy on the seats. That bitch.

Mac: 25:35

I came out there looking like a grilled steak, them grilled lines on me, them corduroys. I'm just saying. But it brings me to this, one of the comments here, and I'll bring this up so they can see it. Add it to the stage. Are we ready to talk about Ali Hamilton from The Notebook also being a villain yet?

Mac: 25:58

This was the most requested. We need to talk about Ali from The Notebook. Now, I'm a go on re- I have not watched The Notebook. My wife has seen it dozens. This is one movie that I refuse to watch.

Mac: 26:20

Not because, movies like that just, I know I'm not going to enjoy it, right? I know it's gonna be very annoying for me, it's gonna be frustrating for me because people are just gonna do stupid stuff. So I looked at a couple things. I looked up some stuff. And if you have seen The Notebook and my short recap is off, please correct me.

Blak: 26:45

I have not seen The Notebook. So

Mac: 26:47

So essentially it's this. Ali is engaged to a dude named Lon who goes off to World War II. And he's gone for a while. While he's at war, Ryan Gosling's character, who is Noah, is seeing somebody as well. But these two end up messing with each other, right?

Mac: 27:15

So they're cheating on their, whoever, respected partners with each other. And it's a toxic ass relationship. Ali is talking to Noah's fiance saying, He's no good. He's gonna hurt you. X, Y, and Z.

Mac: 27:31

And this girl's like, Who the fuck are you? Why are you telling me this shit? And as Lan is over there in Europe fighting Germans and shit, unable to write back, she's just like, I mean, he's gone. I haven't seen him in a while. He may be dead.

Mac: 27:48

So, oh, I'm way off base? Is Ali is Ali not and this is Megan. Is Ali not bad in this movie? Are they both not? Because I'm saying from what I read, both Noah and Ali both ain't shit to me.

Blak: 28:07

Noah was with Ali first. Oh, that's worse.

Mac: 28:15

She was with He was with Ali first. And Ali's like, bro, I'm over here with Lan. Right? So she moved on. And apparently he moved on to somebody else too.

Mac: 28:26

Right? Because the only scene I keep remembering is this man in the driveway like, What do you want? What do you

Blak: 28:36

Oh yeah. She's like,

Mac: 28:37

I don't know. I don't know. What do you want? What do you want? And just that scene alone, I'm just like, I do not need to be watching this movie.

Mac: 28:45

This is toxic. I don't need to be watching this movie. So it's just the level of manipulation. Like, Allie's trying to not mess with Noah. Noah writes her a letter every day for three sixty five.

Mac: 28:57

Noah builds her a fucking house. Noah's doing a lot of what would be seen as manipulative things to keep Ali drawn to him. I read somewhere that it low key got like physical a couple times between them. I'm just like, bro, y'all just, y'all just need to not be together. Like, y'all, what are y'all doing?

Mac: 29:19

That's the frustrating part. We're just like, what are y'all doing? Like, this isn't romantic seeing a toxic ass couple like this. But for whatever reason, the target audience for this movie, women, whatever age demographic, they look at that shit like, that's what I want. That forbidden ass, you know, love that's just taboo and everything.

Mac: 29:44

I'm just like, what is why does this draw the audience that it does? But then if this was happening to them in real life, they would be upset. Is it just the Absolutely. I don't know why. Is just the fantasy?

Mac: 29:57

Yeah.

Blak: 29:59

I don't even know why. That so if it if it's anything like what I've seen so I have seen Dear John. Okay. I have to sit in the movie. I have to sit in

Mac: 30:11

the movie theater. Was so pissed.

Blak: 30:13

I had to watch this movie in the movie theater. If it's anything like that movie, because the lady in that movie, I forget who who

Mac: 30:20

Amanda Seafried, I think it it was Channing Tatum in

Blak: 30:23

that Channing Tatum was in that movie.

Mac: 30:26

And that's the dude.

Blak: 30:26

That's when he was like-

Mac: 30:27

He lost his memory or something or she lost her memory or was it like, it was almost like a fifty first date stay, right?

Blak: 30:33

Yeah, it was kind of on that note.

Mac: 30:35

Uh-huh.

Blak: 30:35

Right? And then they ended up not getting together, but he's like chasing after her and like the whole shit was just toxic. That's But she wasn't shitting in that movie either.

Mac: 30:51

So I feel like I have to watch The Notebook just to get a good synopsis.

Blak: 30:56

I can't let you suffer alone, so I'll watch it.

Mac: 30:59

I really don't. There's so many other things. Oh, it's forbidden because she was upper classy, he was poor. So it's like Titanic. Right?

Mac: 31:11

Like the class disparity, and it's just like, he loves me so he Oh my God. They both moved on when she thought he didn't write because her mom was hiding the letters. So she moved on and

Blak: 31:28

But you was married now.

Mac: 31:31

Oh my gosh. Well, pitmasters, in order to do in order to give Ali the benefit of the doubt, I'm gonna need to watch The Notebook.

Blak: 31:43

Should we have a mac and mac at the movies afterwards?

Mac: 31:48

It's gonna have to be, bro. It's gonna have to be.

Blak: 31:52

Please, believe me.

Mac: 31:53

We have to, man. Have to. We have to. We're not doing it justice, not having seen the movie and trying to give our opinion on it. You know what I'm saying?

Blak: 32:06

I agree.

Mac: 32:07

Like I can watch other people's synopsis of it, but it's not my synopsis of it. You know, it's like when we talked about and we talked about old girl from Castaway and we talked about Rose, like it's movies that we've seen. I have not seen the notebook.

Blak: 32:27

Agree. Let's let's watch it. We'll do a mac and mac at the movies.

Mac: 32:30

Okay.

Blak: 32:31

I understand that this movie will give my full wrath. You can't you gotta

Mac: 32:36

go into it with no expectations, bro. You can't go in there mad at her already. I know this bitch I know she's to do something I

Blak: 32:45

already know. My soul knows I'm about to be mad at this movie.

Mac: 32:51

I can't do this. I I oh. I'm a be I'm a be mad at myself for doing this. But we have to give Allie her space to, I need to see her journey.

Blak: 33:04

Yeah. Yeah.

Mac: 33:05

Because from what I'm hearing, like Noah was a dick too. So we gotta see who was at fault. So we'll pause the alley discussion.

Blak: 33:15

Megan said, remember they are young and dumb. Not an excuse.

Mac: 33:24

That's valid because as a shirt man, I'll having airbag coming in here with their little relationship problems. I'm just like, y'all are just dating right? Break up. You don't understand shirt. I love him.

Mac: 33:38

Then stay together and be miserable. Like what do you want me to tell Shirt, can I ask you a question? Can I ask your advice real quick? All right, this is just, this is Willie's advice. Because as the shirt, cannot order you to do anything.

Mac: 33:53

As a human, y'all just, are you happy with this dude? It's complicated. If you can't answer yes.

Blak: 34:01

It's complicated, yeah.

Mac: 34:03

Yeah, if you're not, it sounds like you're not happy. Just break up. Get get some space. Get some, you know what I'm saying? Because it'd be cats that they they move into each other's dorm room.

Mac: 34:14

I'm like, bro, that's that room is too Y'all y'all at each other's face way too much.

Blak: 34:20

That's why.

Mac: 34:21

You know

Mac: 34:21

what I'm saying? Like, have the ability to just show up there, do what y'all do, hang out for a bit, and head back to your own space.

Blak: 34:27

Yeah, go back to peace.

Mac: 34:29

You know, but you y'all trying to make it work. She's bringing stuff over and like, I know we wanna get married, but she's asking me to give her the password to all my stuff because she was cheated on before. She doesn't trust me, I'm just like, You probably should break up with her. Shirt, she just, I don't know, I'm talking to the chaplain to get counseling, like, Y'all are going to couples therapy?

Blak: 34:52

I mean, cool, but Yeah, that's actually really mature. But on another note, crazy shit is happening, bro.

Mac: 35:02

Yeah, like off rip, y'all been together four months and she's just like, Who's this bitch?

Blak: 35:05

I need the passwords to everything.

Mac: 35:08

We went to high school together. Give me their password.

Blak: 35:11

Yep. Delete the friend.

Mac: 35:14

I'm like, did you give her the passwords? Yeah, because I have nothing to hide. Hey. There's levels to it, bro. Like, need some kind of, like, can add me as friend and see this shit.

Mac: 35:38

Like to give you full reign to just to my whole life. I can't do that.

Blak: 35:45

Nah. Nah. And we just dating? Nah.

Mac: 35:51

That's what I'm saying. Y'all act like y'all married and y'all are sitting there making financial, there's like a divorce is gonna cost this much and kids gotta go here and who's getting what? Y'all are dating and got stuff in a dorm room. Get your stuff and go back to your door.

Blak: 36:05

I'm out.

Mac: 36:05

You're down the hall. Get your stuff and go back down the hall.

Blak: 36:10

Exactly. I'm out.

Mac: 36:13

That's the, I love being a sherpa, sometimes I'm just like, what's happening? What's going

Blak: 36:20

on? Are we thinking?

Mac: 36:21

What's going on?

Blak: 36:22

Like Megan said, they're young and dumb.

Mac: 36:27

They are. But it doesn't make it any less frustrating. I will say that. I will say that. But, so yeah, I'll try to get to it this week and see what we got.

Mac: 36:38

And then when we come back next Friday, we'll have a segment, a little Mac and Mac at the movies and we'll let you know what we feel. Who was at fault? Noah? Allie? Somebody else?

Mac: 36:52

Her mom? Who's the real villain of Notebook? We'll get to the bottom of that.

Blak: 36:58

Hostess.

Mac: 36:59

Yes, yes, yes. I feel it's time for us to get into what has become one of my favorite segments. What did I just watch? Because there's a lot of shenanigans on the internet. So without further ado, let's get into this week's segment of what did I just watch.

Blak: 37:26

Tell me I did not just see that.

Mac: 37:31

Shout out to Megan. Who's the real villain of Notebook? Hitler. If he didn't start that war, none of this shit would've happened. Problem solved.

Mac: 37:43

Yeah. You bet it, like if you could make a time machine and just take out Hitler, like what would change it though? Like would the world just be a better Everything. The world would just be a better place, right? For the most part, I would think.

Blak: 37:57

For the most part. For the most part.

Mac: 38:01

For the most part. I feel like it would be. But I wanna start this week's what did I just watch, with kind of a recap of the last episode. So last episode, our Whose Man was none other than Bishop Marvin Sapp, who is famously being mocked at churches across the country for his close the doors, right? And we read his little, I don't wanna say it, that's so disrespectful, people throw little in front of anything that you did or anything that's, I see you with your little car.

Mac: 38:37

Don't do that.

Blak: 38:37

I see you with your little new friend over Yeah.

Mac: 38:40

Go ask your little girlfriend over there like, Oh my God, here we go. You thunk ass friends. Yeah. When you throw a little in front of something, it's very disrespectful, very disrespectful. So we read his explanation or his reasoning for doing that, and it's because it was gonna be so much money floating around the church or the convention center that he wanted to make it a secure environment because it's very sacred, very holy time.

Mac: 39:07

However, he has since gone on to, I don't wanna say an apology tour, he's been on a couple shows trying to explain himself. So, we do have some videos of him explaining himself, so I'll just play them. There's four separate ones, so we'll play one, you know, talk about it, play another one, talk about it. And we'll see if were we overreacting by being too harsh on the Bishop?

Blak: 39:33

You let us know, Pitmasters.

Mac: 39:35

Let us know. Here we go.

Speaker 5: 39:37

People took issue with me saying, shut the doors. Understand? I never said lock the doors. Yeah. I said,

Mac: 39:49

Oh.

Speaker 5: 39:49

Shut the doors. Shutting doors mean that people still have the ability to go in and out. They've taken issue with my

Mac: 40:02

Alright. Is is Marvin?

Speaker 5: 40:03

Tone. And I can honestly say, you know, looking at the video, maybe I was a little more assertive that I should have been, and I can apologize for that. You know, I can apologize for that, but but three things I need to make sure that people understood. Number one, the $40,000 if it was $40,000 that was raised was never given to me. That money was raised for the purpose

Mac: 40:41

Alright. So the assertiveness of it, did you have issue with that? Did did you have issues with the was it the how he said close the doors or was it just the action of why are you closing the doors? I don't care how you said it. Closing the doors.

Blak: 41:04

Closing the doors? Yeah. It was very matter of fact. Like if somebody told me, Close the doors. And my first reaction would be, Close the doors.

Blak: 41:18

I said, Close doors. Close doors. After the first one, I'm like, Bro, what is you on? You know what I mean? All right, all right, all right, I'll close them.

Blak: 41:31

You know what I mean? That's the tone. Close doors. Close doors.

Mac: 41:36

Yeah, but I'm a shut the doors.

Blak: 41:39

It's like, close the door dumbass.

Mac: 41:42

Right.

Blak: 41:42

Like, hello?

Mac: 41:43

You heard me. Close the door. The motherfucking Close the motherfucking door. Okay.

Blak: 41:51

Okay, Pat.

Mac: 41:51

Alright. We're closing the doors. Goddamn.

Blak: 41:54

Shit. Alright.

Mac: 41:55

Hey, calm down. Jesus. But

Blak: 41:58

Holy Spirit. Here today.

Mac: 42:00

Part two of this discussion.

Speaker 5: 42:02

Being firm with the ushers. Anybody that goes to church ushers and one on one. That's the first thing they teach you as being an usher is that there are three times you don't walk. You don't walk during the to call. You don't walk during prayer.

Speaker 5: 42:17

You don't walk during the offering. One of the reasons being is because of the sacredness. Right. Of the moment.

Mac: 42:30

Right. The sacredness of the moment ushers are taught to not let anybody walk. I will say this. I was in a, you know, as a kid, 12 years old, I was in a church. Very small church, and they were big on preteens and teenagers being involved the sermon or the the the activities in the church.

Mac: 43:03

So they were letting them be ushers. Right? So when it was your turn to be an usher, you come in, you wear white shirt, black pants, you wore the white gloves. You could wear a black tie if you wanted to. Just something along, black and white was the uniform.

Mac: 43:17

When people saw you in black, were like, Oh, you must be an usher. Right? White gloves kind of tipped it off too. It's, yeah, Megan, it's broken. Like it'll pause.

Mac: 43:26

I don't know why it's doing that. We're trying to figure it out. Would stream it from the, last time we tried to stream some off Instagram, like it was not working at all. So, I downloaded it and we're trying to play it through here. Hopefully it was working, but it looks like it's coming broken.

Mac: 43:40

But as long as it's readable and you can understand it, we'll live with that. But, we never had that. People could get up and walk freely. You know what I'm saying? It was never a Sit your ass down because this is what's going on.

Mac: 43:59

Same. Also, the grandmothers and mothers of the church were already good at policing children if they was acting up during these sacred times. You know what I'm saying? But, Marvin is still trying to prove his point, which is cool. So we'll let him continue.

Mac: 44:17

Go off then, Marvin.

Speaker 5: 44:22

Want the doors closed. You don't want the doors locked. I couldn't them locked anyway. It's a convention center. But the door

Mac: 44:34

Alright, Marcus.

Speaker 5: 44:35

Needed to be closed, there was a lot of pandemonium stuff that was going on out there.

Mac: 44:40

Pandemonium stuff.

Blak: 44:42

There was a lot of pandemonium in church.

Mac: 44:45

That's my thing. Like, if he was just like, yo, there was people out there like convention center and there was other conventions going on and it was loud in the convention hall. And I just had them close the door so people could hear me better. A %, Marvin. I'm on board with you with But the way you're going about this is super Bubba's like, even the

Blak: 45:07

Lord is. Can't tell me that people aren't trying to get up, but yet it's pandemonium. You know what I mean? So if you're telling me to close the doors, then are people just not listening and it's pandemonium? Like, what's going on?

Blak: 45:23

You know what I mean? But in that same clip, he's like, y'all ain't going nowhere but to eat afterwards.

Mac: 45:31

He did say that.

Blak: 45:32

We're open the doors again. Did say that. I I hope he mentions that in this clip.

Mac: 45:40

Come on play. Oh my gosh. We're running into some. Look. Oh, here we go.

Speaker 5: 45:48

I wanted to share that first but but that ain't even the reason why I'm here. Here's the reason why I'm here.

Mac: 45:54

Why? Oh, this gets good, ladies and gentlemen.

Blak: 45:57

Why? Why are

Mac: 45:58

you here? You know what? Let me let me let me try something real quick. I'm gonna try to see if we could just stream it from Instagram and see if that'll work a little better. Because this is the part I want people.

Mac: 46:09

This is the part I feel people need to hear loud and clear. Because we've been on the show before. And we've talked about people when they fuck up, the one the one big joker they can play to try to get people back on their side. And if you if you've been followed us, you kinda know where we're going with this. Alright.

Mac: 46:33

Let me click here.

Blak: 46:38

That's not why I'm here. The reason why I'm here is because, you know, it's just not right. And you're right, man. It's that it's that it's like a a defense mechanism.

Mac: 46:52

Yeah. It's not even For

Blak: 46:53

I know I fucked up.

Mac: 46:54

Yeah. Instagram Instagram wouldn't even play it right. So we'll bring this back to the stage and pick up where you left off.

Speaker 5: 47:02

The reason why I'm here is because what has happened is is people have taken clickbait.

Mac: 47:11

Take your clickbait.

Speaker 5: 47:13

And made something out of it that it isn't.

Mac: 47:16

And because

Speaker 5: 47:19

of that, my church has been getting phone call.

Blak: 47:26

The church

Speaker 5: 47:26

has People have called my church and cussed me out. My staff.

Mac: 47:35

We're we're not I mean, what you what

Blak: 47:39

you expect, bro? You basically strong-arm robbed them and was like, Yo, ain't nobody leaving till we get 40. That's what it sounds like. So that's why people are really upset, is because you make it sound like, Yo, until we get $40,000 we ain't leaving this motherfucker. You know what I mean?

Blak: 48:02

It ain't the way It ain't your tone. It's what you actually said. It's like, Look, it's a thousand people in here. Like, I wanna see a thousand people moving. Like, that's I'm checking pockets.

Blak: 48:15

Run run me

Mac: 48:15

these Bring the baskets up front. Bring them up here.

Blak: 48:18

Bring them

Mac: 48:19

up I wanna see people

Blak: 48:20

putting wanna see people putting money in this motherfucker. That's That's pretty much what

Mac: 48:24

you're I wanna see people moving. However, you was just like, nobody should be walking around during this time. You know what I'm saying? Like you literally just said that. Then in the clip.

Blak: 48:34

I need these coins bro. Like bring the plates up here. I know we gotta leave. There's almost a thousand people online. Know what They need

Mac: 48:43

to get

Blak: 48:44

20. Yep. Give me 20. Everybody on the pulpit, y'all put in a hundred. We're gonna get this money.

Blak: 48:52

Yeah, yeah. Money, money. Yeah, He

Mac: 48:57

was actually committing a crime at that time. But here's the wild part. It's like, you got people watching online. You're like, if you're online, give me $20 I bet his views started dropping a little, the view counter was just like people just clicking the X. Not today, pastor.

Mac: 49:18

Oops, something wrong with my internet. About to run me my shit.

Blak: 49:23

Connections messed up, pastor. Gotta, I gotta Yep. In Jesus name, amen.

Mac: 49:29

Because the math, I understand, to him, he's probably like, there's a thousand people here. If everybody here gets $20 that's $20,000 Right. My thing is, you don't know the financial situation of these people. A very funny thing I don't know what the price to attend this convention is with you here. And I'm guessing there's other well known speakers as well.

Mac: 49:51

So those things aren't free. We did an episode about Juanita Bynum and her $1,500 2 week seminar and stuff. People are coming out of pocket to come see you. And just to hear like, on top of what you paid to get here. And even if you traveled to get here, you're probably in a hotel, an Airbnb, like there are some expenses that you paid to come here.

Mac: 50:19

And I'm asking you for money. It's too easy. Just give $20 And everybody behind me, you give it a hundred. Like, hey, yo.

Blak: 50:26

Like bro, I don't know where

Mac: 50:28

you think

Blak: 50:29

I got this money

Mac: 50:32

Exactly. So, yeah. So I agree with Megan. Like, there's some missing some context, but for those who can't give, everybody's walking up and giving and people are still in their seats because they don't have it. Right.

Mac: 50:47

You know? Because some people go full on there was a clip. I'm I'm surprised I didn't send it to you. Some dude was watching a church, like he was attending a church online, like just watching the sermons online and stuff, right? And he was so moved by the sermons.

Mac: 51:06

My man sold his house and all his stuff, packed up his car, drove to the city where this church is at to be a member of the church, right? And he tells the pastor, the pastor's like, Oh, I'm a give you a check for $50,000 My man's like, No, I don't want $50,000 Just give me a job here. He's like, No, we're giving you a check for $50,000 I'm just like, that sounds like a lot at first, but would you think like

Blak: 51:35

it won't last.

Mac: 51:35

To set up a new, like, you know what I'm saying? Yep. To set up a new, like, here's 50,000, right? Put it on a house, I guess, but he still needs a job and all of that stuff. And if, even if you do give him a job at the church, is it gonna be enough?

Blak: 51:54

Right.

Mac: 51:55

For this man to restart his whole life in a new spot? Like people give up everything in the name of like the spirits telling me to do this. So they're in this thing and you're like, lock the doors, give me $20

Blak: 52:08

I'm a let you all know right now. The spirit ain't gonna move me that much.

Mac: 52:13

Yeah.

Blak: 52:15

It ain't gonna I ain't gonna be moved that much. Like, I'll give what I can. But once we get past 10%, spirit stops moving, bro.

Mac: 52:28

Yeah. Here's my recommended. What up, Jackie? She's in the comments.

Blak: 52:33

At work in tuning in. Appreciate appreciate

Mac: 52:36

it. But yeah, we'll let you finish, Marvin. I'm sorry. We cut you off, bro. Or you cut yourself off because of this.

Blak: 52:44

Yeah, pretty much.

Mac: 52:44

This video is just choppy. But it is just crazy. He's just like, people cussing out my church, like Calling this.

Speaker 5: 52:54

Are afraid because I've received.

Mac: 52:57

Oh, here it goes.

Speaker 5: 53:02

I hope death threats over $20 and shut the door. People have come to our

Mac: 53:12

I'm a let him finish.

Speaker 5: 53:13

Campus, they have come to my church to try to cause problems, issues, challenges, and again, my children I don't I don't look at comments. We just talk about this, you know,

Mac: 53:33

Word.

Blak: 53:39

Word.

Mac: 53:41

Death threats, my boy. They roll up to your church just to give you death threats. How about

Blak: 53:49

Word. Are

Mac: 53:53

you buying it? Is is is my first question to you.

Blak: 53:58

I mean, in all fairness, I've seen a pimp walk in church and punch a priest. I've seen this. So in the grand scheme of things, it's not it's not too far fetched, bro. It's not too far fetched.

Mac: 54:16

This is this is gonna sound crazy. But in the pimp's defense. In the pimp's defense, the pastor did owe him money and had not paid said money.

Blak: 54:41

Yeah, you're right, you're right.

Mac: 54:42

If the pastor had just paid,

Blak: 54:46

he wouldn't Hey, he rocked it.

Mac: 54:49

Let me just say

Blak: 54:50

He rocked them too, bro.

Mac: 54:51

It's never a good idea. And it's never a smart move to put pussy on layaway.

Blak: 54:59

Never, never.

Mac: 55:03

Because unlike Kmart, pimps will travel.

Blak: 55:08

They come to collect.

Mac: 55:09

They local. Do you know what I'm saying? You can't put local pussy on that way. Like if you went on a seminar or a convention and wanted to do that pastor and then you flew back and the pimp don't know where you was actually at, you know, valid. But you can't, come on bro.

Mac: 55:28

Come on bro. You too well known if the pip know when the service is, where you at?

Blak: 55:33

What you doing? You see that's all I mean?

Mac: 55:37

He could have just went up there during the praise team and hit you. Sat through praise and worship.

Blak: 55:44

He waited till communion.

Mac: 55:49

Walked up. And I know we're off topic. What do you think was going through that? It was probably like Chris Rock, Will Smith shit. He saw this motherfucker coming up in the cleanest, widest He ain't gonna hit me in this church, is he?

Mac: 56:03

He ain't gonna hit me in this.

Blak: 56:05

Oh my God.

Mac: 56:08

He getting hella close.

Blak: 56:12

Hope he Is he coming to do communion?

Mac: 56:16

Yep. So No? I mean, like you say, wilder wilder things have happened in church. Yes. He However, who, like, he's making it sound like people who just saw the clip are coming in and giving death threats.

Mac: 56:33

Like, I highly doubt that. Only people that would be mad enough to give you death threats are the people you probably had locked up in

Blak: 56:40

there. Exactly.

Mac: 56:41

And I highly doubt they're giving you death threats over $20 sir.

Blak: 56:44

They probably just not coming to church no more. You're not. At the most.

Mac: 56:51

And I'm a go on record, this is just me. I think he's lying about these death threats.

Blak: 56:55

Oh, 110%. I

Mac: 56:59

didn't wanna speak on behalf of the whole smoke pit. Straight

Blak: 57:02

out of playbook, bro.

Mac: 57:03

I'm like, bro, it's one of those You know what we don't get to the root of when it's stuff like this? What was the action that caused people to provide or not provide these death threats? Like, it didn't just come out of nowhere. What stupid thing did you do that offended people to the point where you're getting death threats?

Blak: 57:26

You're getting death threats.

Mac: 57:28

And every celebrity or every idiotic person that says something stupid and has consequences, and they start getting made fun of and drugged through the mud, they're just like, how do I stop getting drugged through the mud?

Blak: 57:41

Leave me alone, death threats. Yeah.

Mac: 57:43

My kids scared, scared my children. Death threats to my six month old baby. Like Andrew Schultz, stop me.

Blak: 57:52

That's what gets me. Like bro, you said something fucked up. People took it away.

Mac: 57:58

Yeah.

Blak: 57:59

You embarrassed. Don't put your kids in this situation. Nobody was even worried about your kids. Everybody was worried about you. Mhmm.

Blak: 58:08

And here he go. Death threats.

Mac: 58:12

Oh, my children. People are just coming to my church, cussing us out, calling the phone. Man, people call my phone and ask for a girl named Sheila. I'm just like, bro, she don't live here. Get off the Just hang up.

Mac: 58:26

Hello, pastor Marvin's church. Fuck y'all, click. Just going about your Yeah. It's a emotional thing for your church like that. All right.

Mac: 58:38

You know, it's a thing.

Speaker 5: 58:39

You want the doors closed.

Mac: 58:40

Alright. Oh, he's done with that video. We got one more. And then that'll be his his saga. That'll be his his four part explanation of what's going

Speaker 5: 58:52

on but I'm just when you got millions of followers, you ain't got time to be reading all the comments. You just don't have it. Right. My children do and

Mac: 59:02

he got millions of followers.

Speaker 5: 59:04

They are afraid. And the reason being is because I'm their only parent. I'm I'm I'm a widower. You know, they're afraid.

Mac: 59:14

Ladies and gentlemen, there you have it. For my The holy trinity of feel bad for me.

Blak: 59:23

Put the sympathy in the air.

Mac: 59:25

Death threats. My children are scared. And I'm a widower. Like, all of this is happening to me. Please stop making me feel bad.

Mac: 59:39

You know what I'm saying? Like, we're not. Yep. We're not. I'm a victim.

Mac: 59:46

Don't. That's what I wanna say when the people start doing it. I've been getting death threats. Don't. Don't.

Mac: 01:00:03

Don't. Just, it's just, it's not And like we were talking about one of the episodes, it just waters down for people who actually do get death threats. Yep. You know, because my whole thing is, if you were legit getting death threats, you would be sending them to the police and having them do what they need to do to ensure that this person can no longer be a threat to you. Yes, You're just not gonna get on the thing that we've gotten death threats.

Mac: 01:00:33

From who? I don't wanna say. Come on now.

Blak: 01:00:38

Come on, man. First and foremost, I would not be doing a public interview. I would not be doing that shit in the studio. You will get a statement from me saying, listen, due to these events, I've been getting death threats. Will be no more public appearances.

Blak: 01:00:57

Until until I feel safe and secure walking out in the public in comfort. Until then, my apologies and I'm sorry for whoever I offended. Please respect my privacy at this time And you won't see me no fucking more. Bro, like, I'm not going to the radio station. I don't care.

Mac: 01:01:20

Don't A %. I

Blak: 01:01:21

don't care. Fuck IG. Fuck TikTok. Fuck Facebook. Fuck social media as a whole.

Blak: 01:01:26

You getting one statement and I'm shutting the fuck up. Bro, like,

Mac: 01:01:29

that's I'm going off the That's it. Off the grid. Bro, especially like if I was him, you ran me for my last $20, pastor. Next time I see you, it's on-site. This account is no longer Error four zero four.

Mac: 01:01:51

This site is not found. Where was Bubba? Where's Max? Where's Max IG? Is he not on- He gone.

Mac: 01:01:58

Did he block me? No, this account no longer exists. This account is hella private. Yep. All of this stuff, man.

Mac: 01:02:10

Oh my god. But, go I'm sorry, Marvin. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Speaker 5: 01:02:15

If you Safety. So now, we've had to update and increase security and all the things I've never had to do before because of the vitriol and the anger that people have shown, the things that they've said.

Mac: 01:02:34

Stop. Let me stop.

Speaker 5: 01:02:36

In my in my thread and stuff. And all of this is because of a misunderstanding.

Mac: 01:02:43

So, again, he's like, all of the vitriol in my threads, but you just said you got millions of followers, so you don't be reading comments.

Blak: 01:02:51

You don't be reading the comments.

Mac: 01:02:52

You don't be in the comments because you know how it is when you got millions of people following you, right? Like,

Blak: 01:02:57

I just can't get to it, I can't.

Mac: 01:02:59

But my kids do, and they're scared. And I'm their only parent, because remember my wife died, so I'm a widower, and they cussing my church out, all because of a misunderstanding. No, all because you fucked up. Not a misunderstanding. It

Blak: 01:03:15

ain't a misunderstanding. If it was a misunderstanding, you'd have been like, you know what? Give what you can give. That, give what you can give. We'd rather have some big money because we have big plans.

Mac: 01:03:26

Why he can't apologize? Yeah, exactly. I'm sorry. I was a % out of pocket. I was so wrong with how I approached giving in that scenario.

Mac: 01:03:38

Did I I apologize?

Blak: 01:03:39

I incorrectly.

Mac: 01:03:41

Yes. You know what

Blak: 01:03:42

I mean? Like,

Mac: 01:03:43

A %. And that's all you gotta fucking do. Play as fuck up, bro.

Akademics: 01:03:50

Yes. Play as fuck up. It's fine.

Blak: 01:03:52

You ain't perfect,

Akademics: 01:03:53

but quit acting like

Mac: 01:03:57

I think that's the part that really gets me, is like, when people refuse to just apologize, and they try to justify what they did, and then they flip to the victim. Now, we're getting cussed out, and my kids are scared. We had to upgrade and update security, must be nice. Right. It must be nice to have the money to do that.

Blak: 01:04:20

You got the money to do it, you know what I mean? Let's put some extra detail out there.

Mac: 01:04:26

While he's wearing the Burberry from London shirt. You know what I'm saying? Like If I got him a bottle If you're asking me for $20, but then you out here wearing this on this show, talking about you got money to update security and all this other stuff. And man, it's not a good look for Marvin. I'm a just say that.

Blak: 01:04:46

No. Terrible look.

Mac: 01:04:48

You know, like my parents, you know, they're still members of a church and things like that. And I don't like when things like this happen and cast a negative look on churches that are operating right. Now religion as a gets this stigma on it. Like y'all are just out here robbing people, you know? Because like if the money was for to pay the convention center or whatever, like, why didn't y'all have that money ahead of time before putting on this convention?

Blak: 01:05:22

Why didn't you announce that this was the objective?

Mac: 01:05:26

You Hey, so if everybody received a word or was blessed or got something out of this convention, this summit or whatever, please feel free to help give to offset the cost for putting this on X, Y, and Z. I'm pretty sure more people would have been like, Oh, okay. Yeah, you wouldn't have been did something out of this. It's the way you wanna, and if you would have just said, I went about it the wrong way, bro, we could have just moved on past this. Yeah.

Mac: 01:05:58

But you keep coming out here like, David, what was the last, his little written thing, when David did this, he did all of this and locked it and people gave and all of this other, like, don't go to the scripture, just be like, I messed up.

Akademics: 01:06:13

Bro. And then

Blak: 01:06:13

you go to the Old Testament, bro. Like, come on. Go where words were read. You know what I mean? Like, read from Go quote

Mac: 01:06:23

from that side. Exactly. Exactly. So that's where Marvin, Marvin Sapp is at. Take it how you want it.

Mac: 01:06:31

I'm just saying to me, he's just trying to uphold an image. He doesn't wanna look like he was incorrect. A lot of pastors, they get like that. They never, they never admit when they mess up. They just, you know, God had me moving in this way.

Mac: 01:06:46

I think the only one that did that was Creflo Dollar when he was he apologized for how he was preaching about giving and all of that stuff, and he got a new plan, all that stuff. He's like, Yeah, just wanna let y'all know I was out of pocket when I did that. But the funny thing when he did that, like, didn't give the money back to the people.

Blak: 01:07:06

Right. I'm a apologize for being given

Mac: 01:07:08

money Yeah, I was out of pocket. The Lord told me that I was going about this the wrong way, so I just wanna apologize. However, this week's sermon is, and people are just like, So, we're not getting the money back?

Blak: 01:07:18

Gonna get our money back?

Mac: 01:07:19

So, was it a building fund or?

Blak: 01:07:23

Nah.

Mac: 01:07:25

Have pretty old Oh, I already spent it, but I just won't do it again. You know? Oh, that money gone, but I won't do that to y'all again. Anyway, so David. There is one more thing I wanna bring up before we get into the Who's Mans.

Mac: 01:07:46

It was a previous episode where I think we just discovered this balloon pop show that's on YouTube. My God. Yep. It's all the craze. It's like numerous episodes on YouTube.

Mac: 01:08:01

You go there, you just type balloon pop show, it'll come up. It's like a very, very hood, homemade, like, you know, just show up, seven dudes, seven females, and then they'll have a balloons and all that stuff. Dude will come out, or female will come out and interview people. If people ain't feeling them, they'll pop their balloon. And then at the end, she or he will pop balloons until there's one left.

Mac: 01:08:28

And then that's the love connection. It was very popular. So of course what happens when Hollywood sees something very popular, they'd gone viral, they're just like, Hey.

Blak: 01:08:37

Let's put it on Netflix.

Mac: 01:08:39

Let's make an official show about it and have a celebrity host it and all of this other stuff, right? I want to bring to

Akademics: 01:08:48

this thing- Pop the balloon.

Mac: 01:08:50

Oh, is she already talking? So Netflix has went ahead and adapted this and made it another live dating show. So here's my thing, like Netflix, get away from these dating things, bro. Like, I get it. Please.

Mac: 01:09:05

People at work still talk about Temptation Island, Love is all of this stuff, right? So it's bringing in ratings. But the last thing you needed was another Love Can Show.

Blak: 01:09:15

Yeah, you don't need, bro, you got Love Is Blind every country. Didn't need another one.

Mac: 01:09:20

But here is, what is it, Pop the Balloon or Balloon Pop or whatever live, And it's hosted by Yvonne Orji from Insecure. And the whole tone of this thing is is is just changed. But this is this is her. And she's gonna talk about an advert this is the trailer for it, I guess. Live, the only live dating show where singles test their chemistry and compete for a first date.

Mac: 01:09:48

Only one thing is certain, when their balloon pops, so does their chance at love. Tough crowd. I'm Yvonne Orji, and this is Pop the Balloon Live. Tune in. I mean, we'll be there.

Mac: 01:10:08

Where will you be? Cause it's live. That's how life works. So yeah. Pop the balloon live.

Blak: 01:10:19

I hate it. I hate

Mac: 01:10:20

it. It's like I hate it already. You haven't even watched it. You're like, yeah, this ain't it for me. I hate it.

Mac: 01:10:28

Would you believe, though, that this is getting backlash? I believe it. It's not very well received, if you will.

Blak: 01:10:41

Because it go so the original concept, it it was genius. Right? You got a lot of good moments out of that. Now it's too it's too over the top, bro.

Mac: 01:10:53

You say what?

Blak: 01:10:53

Too over the top. It's too over the

Mac: 01:10:55

top. Yeah. I concur. Let me bring this up. And it's just some of the comments of people just being like, Yo, this show has lost everything that made it what it was.

Mac: 01:11:10

You know? Where we at? So you'll see here, like, social media reacts to Netflix pop the balloon live show. And the first comment they have here is, the way this dude told a black woman, she looks like she sleeps hanging upside down from a tree. Pack this shit up.

Mac: 01:11:30

I know Netflix was gonna ruin Pop the Balloon.

Blak: 01:11:35

Wow. Wow.

Mac: 01:11:38

Yeah. I tuned into Pop the Balloon on Netflix, and it is immediately ruined. This was a black show. I see one and a half black women. The personalities are terrible.

Mac: 01:11:49

One black girl is forcing herself to be ghetto, and they got a white girl rapping. Get the fuck out of here. This show clearly tells me that Netflix doesn't understand this show or the audience because this ain't it. Go back to the drawing board immediately. Pop the balloon.

Mac: 01:12:04

Like, wanna support my girl, but I'm about to turn this off. They done gentrified. Pop the balloon. Get these reality stars who are just looking for viral moments off the show, please. I don't think these guys on Netflix, Pop the Balloon, are looking for love, more like looking for exposure in the Pop Stars Edition.

Mac: 01:12:23

The Pop the Balloon on Netflix feels very inauthentic and not serious. Too much fake laughing going on and the contestants are super cringe. It's like Netflix was trying to mix Pop the Balloon and Wildin' Out, shake my hand.

Blak: 01:12:34

Yeah. And that's what I got from the trailer. It's too over the top.

Mac: 01:12:38

Yeah. Mean, it's She's like, Oh, I missed the premiere. Feel free to watch it and let us know. It's, now that it's produced, I will say this, it reminds me of, if you remember when Vice had a Decis and Meryl on it, right? Yeah.

Mac: 01:12:57

Very popular, very viral. A lot of people rocked with it. It was like part of the culture and everything. Vice was like, it was a very like authentic show. Then it got so popular, Showtime was like, you know, come over to Showtime, you can do your show over here.

Mac: 01:13:13

And immediately like people just stopped fucking with it when it went to Showtime. Because it became too over produced, it lost the authenticity of And I feel that's what's happening to this Pop the Balloon show. Like granted, I only seen, like I watched five episodes of it on YouTube. Like there was a time where I was just like, bro, I'm tuning into this shit. Because it's hilarious.

Mac: 01:13:33

There was a dude that was on Oh yeah. That was recently at Luke, but got, I don't wanna say kicked out. His service with the military was over, and next thing I know he was on Pop the Balloon. Seriously? Oh yes.

Mac: 01:13:51

And I'll tell you offline. But, I mean, he was a young kid, but like he was getting clowned and stuff. So authenticity. Like it's just, you show up, it'd be like, because I think it's filmed in Arizona in Phoenix, right? So you just have people in Phoenix showing and things like that.

Mac: 01:14:08

And it'd be so cool because it'd be like, the girl would come out one episode was just like, know, dude, popped the blue and then he came down to the thing. Was like, you know, funny thing is like, and the girl knew it, like, I just saw her in the club like two days ago and I asked her for a number and she gave me this fake number. And now she appeared talking about she looking, you know, so like he was just like, I just wanted to be the last one to pop this balloon on your pop. I was just like, damn. You know, like that's the shit I'm looking for.

Mac: 01:14:35

On Netflix, don't have that because it's not like a small sample size of people. Like it's not all local to Phoenix. They're just flying people in who are trying to become famous on this show instead of just coming here to, you know what I'm saying? Just a weird, like it's, I haven't seen it yet, but anytime Netflix or a big publishing thing with money behind it, they try to take something that's authentic like that, they just try to overproduce it, and it's just like, it's not it. It's just not it.

Mac: 01:15:09

So again, Whose bright idea was this to make this live? This is a hot mess and chaotic. Feels like a bad SNL skit. Some things don't need to be touched, pop the balloon is one of them. Dang, bro.

Mac: 01:15:24

People are not I mean, I haven't seen the ratings. I don't know what it is on Netflix. Let Google this shit real quick. Let me see what kind of love this thing is getting.

Blak: 01:15:35

Had to get a lot of love if it's gotten a lot of comments.

Mac: 01:15:39

It's probably gotten a lot of views, I would say. Right?

Blak: 01:15:43

Yeah.

Mac: 01:15:50

Where's the ratings for this thing? Do I need to cite ratings? Google would do that, don't know why my Who switched my shit to Yahoo for the default search engine? I don't like that. The only thing I use Yahoo for is fantasy football, man, get out of here.

Mac: 01:16:10

Oh God, it's rated point five stars out of five on Rotten Tomatoes.

Blak: 01:16:15

Oh shit. Didn't even know Point five?

Mac: 01:16:18

I didn't even know it could do that.

Blak: 01:16:20

Me neither.

Mac: 01:16:21

I thought it was like one. Thought it was one out of five. Damn.

Blak: 01:16:28

Goddamn. That's terrible.

Mac: 01:16:29

But yeah. And and for it to just start on the tenth and it's the eleventh, how many episodes they got? Let me click this shit. Yeah. It's not looking too good for Netflix and pop this balloon.

Mac: 01:16:46

Let me click episodes. I'm assuming if it's live and it just started yesterday, it should just be one episode, right?

Blak: 01:16:57

Yeah, it should be. Unless they did what

Mac: 01:17:01

Nah, it's just one just make

Blak: 01:17:03

a ring in a row.

Mac: 01:17:04

Uh-uh. One episode. And, yeah, point 5.5 out of ugh. It's not looking too good. But that's just one episode.

Mac: 01:17:20

Maybe let me stop. Let me stop. I'm trying to be positive. It's just not gonna work out for a while, don't think so. I would just say if you're interested in it, just watch The Joints on YouTube.

Mac: 01:17:32

And here's the wild part. Shout out to Netflix for getting what the creators of the YouTube pop the balloon stuff and having them as producers. Or, you know, just by name, maybe they just got getting money based on them using their whatchu call it? I don't know, the word excuse.

Blak: 01:17:51

Their influence.

Mac: 01:17:55

Yeah, I was gonna say their property or whatever. Yeah. Their whole feng shui or whatever, they're just, Hey, we like what you're doing, we wanna do that exact thing over here, we'll pay you so you can't sue us for copyright shit. And they're just like, Of course, Netflix money comes in, you know, who's gonna say no? Right?

Blak: 01:18:15

And then they change everything about it.

Mac: 01:18:17

%. So there's that. I'm not a fan of it and I haven't even seen it. Intellectual property,

Blak: 01:18:27

through. There it is.

Mac: 01:18:27

Pitmasters come through for the There it is. Yeah. Thanks Megan. So it's one of those where we're just like, ah, you know? So before we get the who's man, smoke pit for whatever reason, we blow up.

Mac: 01:18:44

We become famous. Netflix knocks on our door, Ay. Y'all wanna do y'all show on Netflix? What are we saying?

Blak: 01:18:53

No. I have conditions.

Akademics: 01:18:57

Go on. Go on. Let me hear

Blak: 01:19:00

I have conditions. I would not do anything unless DFPN can come with me. It's a package deal.

Mac: 01:19:10

What if Netflix is like So, yes, that's number one, right? Number two, need creative oversight. Creative control.

Blak: 01:19:24

Give me the Hulk Hogan. I want creative control.

Mac: 01:19:28

Yeah, because I don't want you to just have us host, but then you have somebody telling us how we should be hosting.

Blak: 01:19:34

Right, how to run our show.

Mac: 01:19:35

How to do our show. You know what I'm saying? Hey, you be shocked bro. You be shocked CJ. Yep.

Mac: 01:19:44

And then second, like, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. If it comes, and then, because like I said, like you do your horror stuff and it picks up and Netflix is like, Oh, we want in on that. Hey CJ, come host your show over here on Netflix. We have this guy, he's totally gonna run your show, be your show runner and tell you how to like, that's the part where I'm gonna be like, I need to see your portfolio.

Mac: 01:20:08

What have you done? Yeah. What have you done, sir? Because what you're not gonna do is fuck up the shit that we started from the ground up.

Blak: 01:20:17

Exactly. If we get eyes by Netflix, that means we could do this shit on our own.

Mac: 01:20:24

Valid. Because Pop the Balloon was doing very well on YouTube. They were making money off of YouTube doing Pop the Balloon. Yes. But it's like, you're getting that month to month check where Netflix can come in and be like, We're gonna give you 20,000,000 to use your show.

Mac: 01:20:39

You're just like, That's life changing money. And it is.

Blak: 01:20:41

It is, definitely is.

Mac: 01:20:43

But like, I think we talked about this like, year ago or some years ago. Spotify comes up, they're like, Hey, we wanna give you $250,000 to make your show Spotify exclusive, and we want you to do three episodes a week, and this, that, and the third. I'm just like, I don't like being You know what I'm saying? I like doing this shit, it's fun. But I don't want nobody to tell me, You owe

Blak: 01:21:17

us a You owe us take now. I have

Mac: 01:21:19

my Yeah. Because at that point, like you said, if somebody's throwing that kind of money, they know how profitable it is, is super rare that a company or somebody will come and pay you exactly what your property is worth, because they wanna come in low, because they know they can make more off of it.

Blak: 01:21:39

Exactly, exactly. So,

Mac: 01:21:41

that's where I'm at. So if Netflix was like boom, A, smoke pit, 25 mil to give us intellectual property of the smoke pit. You guys can host it, but It belongs to Netflix. It belongs to Netflix now.

Blak: 01:21:59

I don't know if I'd be willing to do that either.

Mac: 01:22:02

For 25 mil? That's what you said. 25,000,000

Blak: 01:22:05

is a lot of money, but bro, if we get to that point.

Mac: 01:22:08

10 toes down on it. DFP and 10 toes down like that?

Blak: 01:22:11

Yeah, I'm standing on that.

Mac: 01:22:14

I'm rocking with that shit bro. I fucks with you.

Blak: 01:22:18

Yeah, I'm standing on that. That'll also give me, I know what this is worth now.

Mac: 01:22:28

Mhmm. 100%. I like that. Maybe Vet TV would be a better start. Yeah, they more laid back over there.

Mac: 01:22:36

Hot pugs with Vet TV. What's CJ say? It worked well for Chappelle.

Blak: 01:22:40

It worked so well. I think

Mac: 01:22:42

they gave Chappelle one hundred percent creative control over his sets. Because he's like, This is when I wanna do it, this is where I'm a do it at, and this is the shit I'm a talk about first.

Blak: 01:22:51

If Chappelle agreed to it, then he got exactly

Mac: 01:22:53

what Oh, 100%. Because Chappelle was like the belle of the ball. Everybody wanted to work with Chappelle. He was like, I choose Netflix and here are my conditions. And Nephew's like, fuck it, you name it.

Mac: 01:23:09

Because you gonna draw them Yeah. Yep. But it's that time of the week where we have to talk about one sad SOB, somebody who's hitting hard times. I wanna say, has this person ever been the Whosemans? Like, I know we've had segments talking about them.

Mac: 01:23:33

Right. But has this person ever been the Whosemans?

Blak: 01:23:38

I don't recall. I don't think he has.

Mac: 01:23:42

Well, ladies and gentlemen, this might be a first, but I can't say it's not a long, this hasn't been a long time coming. It was only a matter time. You know, the bet would have

Blak: 01:23:54

been We owed him. We owed him, but he gave us exactly what we needed to unleash the ammo.

Mac: 01:24:03

Alright. Ladies and gentlemen, let's go ahead and get to it. This week's Who's Man's is this?

Blak: 01:24:25

Mister West. Wake up, Mister West.

Mac: 01:24:29

That's literally what I feel someone should tell him. Don't know if this dude thinks he's in a dream where everything he can do, he's just like, I could be as wild as I want and wake up and it'll still be 02/2002 and I'll still be with Rockefeller and everything is fine. You know? But alas, he is not in a dream. If he isn't one, we are active participants in it, and we are not liking what we are seeing.

Mac: 01:25:03

If you haven't noticed or you haven't heard, he recently did a interview with one DJ Academics, another person I can't stand. But the thing that is gaining headlines is the outfit choice of one Mr. West.

Blak: 01:25:29

Yep.

Mac: 01:25:30

I'm a go ahead and oh, Lord. I'll go ahead and share the screen. Because you can watch the full unedited interview. It's like an hour and twenty minutes that DJ Academics is literally giving this man a platform to spread stupid. And here's where I'm at with that, before I bring the screen up.

Mac: 01:25:56

You know what I'm saying?

Blak: 01:25:57

Go ahead. Go ahead.

Mac: 01:25:59

Some people, when you realize they need help, and that they're spewing nonsense, and that they're spewing stuff that could potentially ignite a group of people to start performing actions and deeds that will hurt another group of people. They don't need platforms. They don't need a space to speak and share their thoughts publicly. Unless, you know, he's on Twitter like he's been doing with all these fucking rants, they'll take them down and apologize and all this other shit. But to have an established platform and you give your platform over to people like that to spew whatever, and then when you get, because he's gonna get, what is it?

Mac: 01:26:51

Fucking, what is it? Not splashback. He's gonna get something

Blak: 01:26:55

like Backlash.

Mac: 01:26:56

Backlash. DJ Akademis is gonna get backlash for this shit. And he's gonna be on a show, and he's gonna be crying and being upset and shit. Because this happened to him, like he does it numerous times. He'll do something, say something stupid, backlash happens, and he's trying to apologize and all this other stuff.

Mac: 01:27:12

I don't But you open yourself up for the backlash. People just don't need to have a microphone in front of them to talk when you know they're gonna say wild shit. There's no way in this day and age, April in the year 2025 of our Lord Jesus Christ, and think that Kanye is gonna say some sensible shit on your platform.

Blak: 01:27:47

I mean, if you need proof, go back twenty years, bro. Thought, at the time, we was like, Damn, Kanye speaking up.

Mac: 01:27:58

You talking about the George Bush don't care about black people? Oh yeah. Yep. Yeah, back there But

Blak: 01:28:05

look at Mike Myers. So brave. So bold. Yeah. Yeah.

Blak: 01:28:09

So look at Mike Myers face. That's us now.

Mac: 01:28:13

Mike Myers like, y'all thought I was tripping. Y'all thought that I was looking at them like, I don't believe you. But I'm like, fam, this ain't the time or place.

Blak: 01:28:23

This ain't the time or place.

Mac: 01:28:25

We're trying to raise money to help these Yeah. People was about to give money till you said that shit. They put it back in their wallets.

Blak: 01:28:32

Fucking up the money, Kanye.

Mac: 01:28:35

Cut to a black person. Chris, Chris.

Blak: 01:28:39

Hey, hey, hey.

Mac: 01:28:41

Damn. Chris was not ready. Chris Tucker was over there in the break room trying to get him a fucking soda out the thing.

Akademics: 01:28:52

Why is this camera in my face, man?

Mac: 01:28:54

Hey, Kanye's wildin', we need you to back. Send trucks, water, see what you can. We tryna, hey.

Akademics: 01:29:02

And you know this man.

Mac: 01:29:03

Like, try to say some joke to make everybody else.

Blak: 01:29:06

Nailed that impression, by the Right.

Akademics: 01:29:08

Oh, thank you. Thank you.

Mac: 01:29:10

But his face, he was like looking around. He had no teleprompter. He was just like, like, bro, save us, Chris. Save us. Save us.

Mac: 01:29:15

Save Be the black person that could. Please. Please be the black person with sins. But We need a token. Yes.

Mac: 01:29:21

Ladies and gentlemen, this is Kanye West. And yes, that is a black KKK hood. Like I said, you can see up here, full interview unedited, happened March 30. It is a hour and twenty two minutes that you can go watch and hear this wild ass stuff. But because I didn't wanna sit there and watch a hundred, you know, all that time and try to find bits and pieces, of course YouTube is just like, bro, we got some shorts.

Blak: 01:29:51

Here's some shorts.

Mac: 01:29:52

Here are some shorts where you can kinda just see the I'm a just play it. I'm a just play

Blak: 01:30:01

Just just look at the level of fuckery that we're Alright.

Mac: 01:30:05

Let me click on this one. Let's see what's going on. Figure it out. This is

Akademics: 01:30:15

Wherever you want it. Can you sit right here?

Mac: 01:30:20

Yo. So here's the thing, like when it starts, he's like in a sweatshirt and some joggers. Right? And he's just like, I'm a go change, come back. Right?

Mac: 01:30:32

DJ Akademis is chilling just waiting for Kanye to come back out of his interview outfit. He turns and Kanye comes out of this like, What did? Cut. Simple

Blak: 01:30:50

and plain.

Mac: 01:30:51

Cut these motherfucking cameras off.

Blak: 01:30:53

Nah, bro. We we ain't doing this shit. We ain't doing this shit, bro. I'm a need I know I paid you for this interview. I'm a need my money back bro.

Mac: 01:31:06

He came with I'm

Blak: 01:31:06

a need it.

Mac: 01:31:07

He was like,

Blak: 01:31:09

where you want me to sit? In a

Mac: 01:31:12

full black KKK robe like,

Blak: 01:31:14

Anywhere you want. Want you

Mac: 01:31:16

to sit anywhere you Academics didn't know what to Anywhere you can sit, anywhere you want. He immediately lost control of the

Blak: 01:31:26

interview, bro. He did. Point blank.

Mac: 01:31:28

Kanye took over with the motherfucking interview, bro. This man is like,

Blak: 01:31:32

wherever you are. I'd have to get a king and shit. Kanye. Kanye.

Mac: 01:31:38

Bro, look at this. My bad was just shit. Figure it out. This is

Akademics: 01:31:46

wherever you want. Can you sit right here? Yeah. You do that.

Kanye: 01:31:51

That's why I'm about to tweet this shit. I want Kendrick to always remember that Jay Z tweet before he ever crossed the line. Okay. Nobody that worked for none of these fucking labels wanted with the king. I am the don.

Kanye: 01:32:09

Lucy and don't send nobody because they getting their head torn off. Quick. Quick. Quick. Quick.

Kanye: 01:32:15

We ain't got no problem. Ain't no motherfuckers. I'm the only king. I'm the only nigga that'll go up against these niggas. I'm the only nigga that survived through this shit.

Kanye: 01:32:24

That's why

Akademics: 01:32:25

know, they always say sometimes, you know, when someone passes away, you know, can't be for the dead man. You know? It feels like it feels like you still have a little bit of animosity there.

Kanye: 01:32:34

I'm evil.

Blak: 01:32:41

I'm sorry. Say say that again.

Akademics: 01:32:42

You don't think about, like, his family and people other people that love him?

Kanye: 01:32:45

I am an evil person. You don't think that.

Akademics: 01:32:48

I feel like you've always represented god fearing you know, they always say sometimes, you know, when someone passes away, you know, can't be for the dead.

Mac: 01:32:56

Hold on. Hold on.

Akademics: 01:32:56

Why say

Akademics: 01:32:57

Virgil after he dies?

Kanye: 01:32:58

I'm evil. You don't

Akademics: 01:33:00

think about, like, his family and people other people that love him?

Kanye: 01:33:02

I am an evil person.

Akademics: 01:33:03

I feel like you've always represented god fearing ideals, though.

Kanye: 01:33:06

God has the wrath. You only play with god for so long. Virgil is the Jesus or the Nicks that worked for me. Right? Because every Nick that worked for me would have rather been me.

Kanye: 01:33:19

Why do I have problems with almost every celebrity? Because they're jealous. And they should be because I'm better than them.

Akademics: 01:33:26

Why say

Mac: 01:33:29

I mean, it it goes on and on. The the the audacity, the the the unsensible like, I feel like back in the day, well, I'm not even back in the day, like now, if he was a middle class person, like people would have him like

Blak: 01:33:51

Committed? Yes.

Mac: 01:33:56

Like it wouldn't even be a thing. Like people were like, if somebody at my job was talking like this, commander directed, mental health, commander directed evaluation. Check, please evaluate this Please. And this kinda goes back to my thoughts on religion. Like we were talking about Marvin Sapp messing stuff up, and then it tarnishes the overall view of religion as a whole, Christianity and whatnot.

Mac: 01:34:32

People struggle with mental health disorders.

Blak: 01:34:35

Yes.

Mac: 01:34:35

Daily. He's been diagnosed, 2016, with bipolar.

Blak: 01:34:41

Yep.

Mac: 01:34:44

People have been struggling with that for as long as people can remember, before people actually knew what the diagnosis was. People have been suffering from this disorder. He's out here just alone and unsupervised, essentially, saying whatever. People giving him the platform. People know he's suffering from a mental disorder, And then they just keep giving him the opportunity to look stupid doing this.

Mac: 01:35:20

Like, the level of sympathy that people would have for somebody suffering with mental disorder lowers because of the shit Kanye's doing. I feel, or is it Yep. Or is it just me? Like, I'm not gonna look at somebody who's suffering from bipolar or any kind of mental health disorder like, whatever, Kanye's fucking it up for you. Like, I just don't feel bad for Kanye.

Mac: 01:35:45

Like, whatever happens to Kanye, I'm just like, bro, this is what you fucking get. That's where I'm at with this now.

Blak: 01:35:52

I am. I am there too. And it's how the fuck do we get here?

Mac: 01:35:59

Kanye? Yeah. I have never I'm not a mental health person. I'm not a psychiatrist, a psycho all of that stuff. I know people who have lost parents.

Mac: 01:36:14

And I know the emotional toll it takes.

Blak: 01:36:17

Oh, most definitely.

Mac: 01:36:18

I thank God that both of my parents are still here, but when my mom lost her father, like I saw how it affected her. He lost his mom, And we all know, like if you watch the documentary or you followed Kanye and his or like, you know how revered his mom was to So when she's gone, he's in a dark place, a weird place, eight zero eight Heartbreaks comes out. People are just like, This is him grieving and all this stuff in his music. After that album grew on me. I saw where he was at creatively and stuff and I rocked with it.

Mac: 01:37:01

Came back with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, was a classic album to One album to then he just started getting involved in the public eye. Like, it became less about the music and more about his ego. Yep. Where he just felt he could do whatever because his music was so good. You hear him, I'm a genius, I'm God, I'm the wrath.

Mac: 01:37:31

I'm the dude nobody can mess with. I'm a genius. I'm this like, Mega said, megalomaniac. Like it's, it's, like, I just, one of them like, you just gotta ignore this dude. Like, we just can't keep giving him the opportunity to say whatever, right?

Mac: 01:37:50

Like his Twitter rants and stuff, like, blow, like, Twitter's the only place he can go with this stuff. Because Elon's gonna let him talk.

Blak: 01:37:57

Even Twitter be like, you tripping. And that's wild. Because Twitter's a wild place. Even Twitter's like, bro, you going too far.

Mac: 01:38:07

So CJ's asking, Is this real? Like, is this real Kanye or is this an act like Andy Kaufman back in the day?

Blak: 01:38:15

Nah, because Andy Kaufman had a level

Akademics: 01:38:20

that stayed in.

Mac: 01:38:22

Hold on. Let me see this one. Kanye West says he's evil and asked about Virgil. Oh, yeah. He's talking about I'm evil.

Mac: 01:38:28

Virgil died. You

Blak: 01:38:29

get the

Akademics: 01:38:30

Great. No. No. No. Listen.

Mac: 01:38:31

Yeah. But those are the shorts. I'm just like, bro, it's Bro, it's not just this, but before this. On his Twitter, like, here's my new merch, and it's a shirt with a Swatzka on it. Yep.

Mac: 01:38:49

You know? There's actually- He's calling

Blak: 01:38:53

himself a Nazi.

Mac: 01:38:54

Yes. And there's another clip that I saw, like, before the interview. Like he's in a sweatshirt in the joggers, right? And he's wearing the White Lives Matter sweatshirt. And he asked Academics like, You want one?

Mac: 01:39:12

And Academics is like, I mean, yeah, I'll take one. So he takes the sweatshirt off his back and he has a Sean John t shirt on with the iced out Swatzka chain. And I'm just like, of this academics was letting you know, bro, this probably ain't it.

Blak: 01:39:32

This ain't a good look.

Mac: 01:39:33

But academics is like, he's about to be so off the chain, I'm a get views for this shit. This is his Shannon Sharpe, Cat Williams thing. Like, he's like, this interview is gonna get me the views that that interview got for Shannon. It put Shannon on the map, this is gonna be the thing to put me on the map as an interviewer, which

Blak: 01:39:52

Nah, see, people like that, bro, people like academics need to go the fuck away. I'm a just be honest about it. Like, that's some culture vulture shit. Like, what you do academics, you try to get this shit, but it it it makes people look bad. Right?

Blak: 01:40:13

You you say all these things and you do all this stupid ass shit. You got Kanye out here looking like a fucking dumbass in this outfit. You don't end the interview. You let it go because you're to get your views. Like, that's some asshole Like, where's your integrity at, bro?

Blak: 01:40:31

Like,

Mac: 01:40:31

the academics has no bro.

Blak: 01:40:33

He has no integrity. Right? At the end of the day, it's like, it's like, how serious do we need to take this interview? Because we know, we know this motherfucker's a culture vulture. Academics.

Blak: 01:40:45

He he does not have the best interest of the culture in mind. When he does this dumbass shit. So are we are we to pay attention to this? And be like they wilding? Which they are obviously.

Blak: 01:40:59

But one, why you let it go? Two, you didn't need to go that far in another interview with this motherfucker with this shit on. Like, when he came out, it should've been point blank period. But some in you was like, I'll let it go.

Mac: 01:41:15

Yeah.

Blak: 01:41:16

And I'll take these things.

Mac: 01:41:22

Sad because, what was it? Three weeks ago, two weeks ago, he dropped his album on YouTube, right? Just forty five minutes. Music is so good. Like, he he is creative genius when it comes to music is is, like, one of one.

Mac: 01:41:52

How how he he makes the beats and does all of that stuff. And it makes you so mad, you're like, bro, I wanna appreciate this, I wanna give you flowers, I wanna give you everything, but bro, I can't, I can't. Right, you know, like, I listen to it once, am I gonna buy it? Am I gonna download it? Absolutely.

Mac: 01:42:12

I can't support you this Kanye. Like, oh, you listen to College Dropout and like, I do to this day. Sometimes I go listen to old Kanye and it was a thing like, we want the old Ye back. Like, I really do want the old Ye back. Yes.

Mac: 01:42:31

But we're not getting him back. I can't like And it sucks. I wanna be able to support your shit, my guy. But I can't.

Blak: 01:42:46

And it's sad because we know how good you are.

Mac: 01:42:50

Yes.

Blak: 01:42:53

But this shit is just a bad look for everybody. And if it's a troll job, then bro, there's different ways to troll.

Mac: 01:43:00

There's levels, yeah. There's certain lines that You wanna be the ultimate troll and it's just like, Oh, I wear a black KKK? You can't do that. There's lines. You know what I'm saying?

Mac: 01:43:14

There's boundaries to troll it, my boy. Knowing what that outfit meant to people like us to come out and wear it. And I don't know if he's doing it like, I'm taking it back. I'm empowering it for us.

Blak: 01:43:33

I don't know if you wanna reclaim that, bro.

Mac: 01:43:35

Bro, I guarantee you, like you are not going to find many other black men to be like, Yeah, let us wear this. Let us wear it. And then now they're scared of us because we're wearing black ones. They're like, Bro, it's not a thing. And I'm a % on board with what you said.

Mac: 01:43:56

Like, I would've, like academics would've gained so much respect for me if he was just like, bro, I'm not fucking airing this shit. Like, bro, get the fuck out of here. Pack this shit up, get back in the car. We can't do this shit as a black dude. Right.

Mac: 01:44:11

Academics, come on. Kanye is just every I just can't no more, bro. And you got kids out here now, you know, they're looking at their dad acting like this, bro. They going to school. Kids like, Bro, your dad wild.

Mac: 01:44:40

When Kim, like I'm siding with Kim like, Bro, what world?

Blak: 01:44:45

I can't have my kid around this shit.

Mac: 01:44:47

What world? And you're sitting there with your daughter there and you got agitated about to come up to do an interview. And Kim's just like, Get my daughter the fuck up out of there. You got the most misogynistic, deranged, evil man coming to do an interview with you in the headspace you're in while my daughter's like, Give me my daughter back. Hell yeah.

Mac: 01:45:11

And I'm looking at Kim like, Damn, That's the crazy sensible.

Blak: 01:45:14

Kim Kardashian makes the most fucking Kim's the sensible parent.

Mac: 01:45:20

He spent all his time when the Kardashians was on E, like, my Kardashians, I can't fucking stand them. Now you're just like, thank you, Kim. Yes. Please get these kids. Please protect these kids.

Blak: 01:45:33

I'm not gonna have my kids around this shit.

Akademics: 01:45:35

Fuck.

Blak: 01:45:36

Understandable. Understandable.

Mac: 01:45:38

As a parent, fucking team team Kim.

Blak: 01:45:41

And then you out here crying and shit because you don't get to see your kids. Gee, fucking. I wonder why.

Mac: 01:45:51

Yeah. You're you're not one of those dads that are just being, you know, like, my baby mom just won't she won't let me see these kids, man. I just wanna be a part of their lives. Like, no. The fuck you don't, Kanye.

Mac: 01:46:02

No. You don't. And if you do, you know you gotta do better. Yep. But anyway, Kanye West.

Mac: 01:46:13

And low key, one A, one B academics. I'm pretty sure we can have academics have his own session one of these days, and we will. It's only a matter of The writing's on the fucking wall.

Blak: 01:46:25

Yeah, he won't let us know.

Mac: 01:46:26

Will say though, to end this on a good note, we're 33% of the way down with the year, and Tyrese has not popped up.

Blak: 01:46:36

That's some really good news, but that also means other

Mac: 01:46:40

people don't fuck Don't ruin it. Tyrese has been hella quiet

Blak: 01:46:46

this I'm he's been good.

Mac: 01:46:49

Tyrese's been hella quiet, man. I Here you go. Knock it over. But, like, I'm not trying to have him catch any random strays, but Kanye West, man. It's crazy that the downfall we've seen from what you were built up like early two thousands producing for Jay Z on the blueprint.

Mac: 01:47:14

And coming producer, got some verses, became a rapper and everything. Early 2000s, like in twenty five years, man. In twenty five years, the downfall of this shit, bro, it's wild.

Blak: 01:47:26

They done it. They've done it.

Mac: 01:47:29

They got them.

Blak: 01:47:29

They successfully got you.

Mac: 01:47:31

They got them. Sad. It is. But I just hope you get better, bro. I hope you get better and I hope the media outlet that's out there, because I don't think you're getting back on mainstream media, you're just getting on all these creator things, like anybody with a podcast.

Mac: 01:47:49

I swear to God, I I don't know, but if we're just like, Hey Kanye, you wanna come on our show and share your thoughts? He'd be like, Fuck yeah. Because he just wants whatever platform to say whatever it is he wants. But I don't have the time or patience.

Blak: 01:48:07

Yep. Here's an invitation.

Mac: 01:48:11

Not on this show.

Blak: 01:48:13

Come on to Smoke Pit.

Mac: 01:48:14

Nope. Stay your ass over here. Don't come over here. No.

Blak: 01:48:20

No. There's there's parameters. Come on and smoke it. But you gotta face the fire. I just have I just have I just have one burning question.

Mac: 01:48:31

What are you gonna ask Kanye?

Blak: 01:48:33

And that's why? Why is the person you are now so different from the person that made college dropout, dedicated their life to making music, making good beats. What happened? Why is this person different from that guy? Because he is.

Mac: 01:48:56

You think he's going to give you a legit answer?

Blak: 01:49:00

That's all I want to know. You give me bullshit. But I'm gonna build a whole conversation around that. Give me bullshit. But I'm

Mac: 01:49:07

going to poke. Bro,

Blak: 01:49:09

I'm going to poke until I get what I want.

Mac: 01:49:12

And you're not. Will fucking form a fucking cinnamon roll type layer of shit where it's just, it'll keep rolling. It's like cotton candy, how they just, layers and layers, like, he's not gonna give you the root cause of this shit. Nobody will get the root cause of this shit. Because he knows the more wild shit he says, the more clicks and the more views and the more people talk about it, and all of this stuff, man.

Mac: 01:49:43

Like, the only thing that will kill this dude, not kill him, but like, not in the literal sense, but if people just ignore his ass. Like, if he acts out and people, like when he showed up to the Grammy and his wife at the time, because apparently rumor is she's leaving this dude.

Blak: 01:50:02

Oh yeah, that's been, that's been.

Mac: 01:50:04

Like he shows up to the Grammys with his wife in that outfit and the media and everybody just walk away the minute he shows up, you know what that woulda did to him? Like that shit woulda hurt him more than us berating him and stuff. Because anytime he shows up on a thing, if it gets no views or people stop hitting him up like, Hey, we want you on the show and shit like that. We just ignored all of his publicity Right about that. You know what I'm saying?

Mac: 01:50:34

And he's just

Blak: 01:50:35

Don't talk.

Mac: 01:50:36

The only time people give me any kind of shine is when I do music. Just go back to do music. It's not, I don't want it to be like a shut up and dribble moment, like with LeBron and athletes. Like nobody wants to hear your thoughts and your opinions on current situations. Just fucking play basketball for us.

Mac: 01:50:53

Like, we don't want that. Like, just not gonna give you any shine when you do stupid shit.

Blak: 01:51:00

The antics.

Mac: 01:51:01

Like if you wanna show up to the Grammys acting like a normal person, which sounds hella fucking bad when I say that, but Your recent thing, like it's one thing to do fashion, like the Met Gala when people are just wearing like out of this world shit, right? When you show up and your wife is like naked and you're just like, Take that shit off. And she looked very hesitant to do it, you know? And then she does it. Because you're not even invited to the Grams.

Mac: 01:51:32

You just showed up to do that shit and bounce. Yep. And the media was all over it. Because it's all about clicks and what's gonna get the most views. Like when people could just come together and be like, this is stupid.

Mac: 01:51:46

Let's stop giving him this platform. Because the more shine and more eyes you put on this dude, he does

Blak: 01:51:55

shit like Bernie's gonna take it.

Mac: 01:51:56

Then he does shit like this. Yep. Yep. You're right. Know, it's So if you cut like, you're like, Hey, come on a smoke pit.

Mac: 01:52:05

I got a question for you. It's just like, Why? You're just gonna fucking bullshit. And I'm not here to hear that shit, Kanye. Because I heard you tell academics this.

Mac: 01:52:17

I heard you tell Tucker Carlson this. I heard you tell Nori and them that on Drink Champs. I heard you like, all you do is just tell bullshit. You're never gonna be real. You're not gonna be real with yourself.

Mac: 01:52:26

You're not gonna be real with me. So why waste my fucking time when I could come here and talk about funny shit on the internet? When you're just gonna come here and frustrate me. What I won't do is pay you $500 to come on this show.

Blak: 01:52:40

At all.

Mac: 01:52:42

If I gotta pay you to come on the show Kanye, absolutely not. It's already a absolute No, But you wanna submit that shit and throw it in the water, you know what I'm saying? I wish you would try to charge somebody for giving you a platform, the way you acting.

Blak: 01:52:56

But, 500, you better send me a fucking beat.

Mac: 01:53:01

Bro, you better fucking rap Jesus Walks a couple times.

Blak: 01:53:11

Sound effects and

Mac: 01:53:11

all. Yep. A cappella motherfucker shit. You know what the Midwest is? Young and rest is.

Mac: 01:53:21

I want all that shit. Yeah, Kanye, get your shit together. We're running long. Let's go ahead and get back to our regularly scheduled programming and wrap up this amazing episode.

Segment Intro: 01:53:34

And now we return you to our regular scheduled program in progress.

Mac: 01:53:59

Where I got that beat from? Where? So, Oscar had a you know, I follow her IG and she had a video where I think she was doing some She wasn't doing a promo, she was just outside of the ring when a fight was going on and she was doing some kind of weird dance and this was the beat that was on her video. And I just took that shit.

Blak: 01:54:22

That's And was like, yeah.

Mac: 01:54:25

Because like I was watching her video, I'm just like, well, what the fuck song is this? Like, it was just a random ass beat. Like, I'm just, all right, cool. I'll take it. But yeah, man.

Mac: 01:54:39

What you got for the folks, man?

Blak: 01:54:41

Oh, man. A lot of stuff, man. So, shout out to Cutting Edge Heroes and Cape Events. They had their successful event last weekend.

Mac: 01:54:51

Anime Con. Kudos.

Blak: 01:54:52

Yes. Kudos.

Mac: 01:54:53

Anime. I'm sorry. Cape Anime.

Blak: 01:54:56

Cape Anime. Yep. Yep. Kudos to them for that event. Tabletop RPG.

Blak: 01:55:02

Guys, listen. When this drops, please please do us a favor. Go go listen to it. If we if you get the video, watch the video. You won't be disappointed.

Blak: 01:55:17

This tabletop RPG, Nox Eterna is fire. Fire. Kudos to the awesome zone and they just launched their YouTube channel. So, kudos to them. Eat the cake anime dropped their YouTube channel as well.

Mac: 01:55:33

We did.

Blak: 01:55:33

So, kudos to you guys. A bunch of stuff going on. MPX will be there. I'm actually going to be in Vegas next week. Okay.

Blak: 01:55:43

I forgot. I'll be going out there for my journalistic Mhmm. I'll be on I'll be on my journalist back covering the events around WrestleMania, not WrestleMania itself. But there's a bunch of smaller events that I'll be going around like WrestleCon and bunch of the smaller promotions that be doing shows out there that week. So I'll be out there Thursday through Monday.

Blak: 01:56:11

So, I'll be out there covering that but.

Mac: 01:56:14

Y'all got a spot where you're gonna be WrestleMania is not this. You said this weekend or next week?

Blak: 01:56:21

Next weekend.

Mac: 01:56:22

Alright. So you got a spot that you're gonna be watching WrestleMania at?

Blak: 01:56:27

Yeah. So Bully Ray of the Dullyboys.

Akademics: 01:56:33

Yeah.

Blak: 01:56:34

He's gonna be having a watch party. So, I'll be I'll be there.

Mac: 01:56:37

Okay.

Blak: 01:56:38

On the weekend and then, there's a whole bunch of stuff going on that I'll be.

Mac: 01:56:43

Yeah, I'll be. I know there's a lot of cons and and conventions and stuff like that surrounding it. Yep.

Blak: 01:56:50

Cool. So I'll be doing that. I will be out of pocket next weekend.

Mac: 01:56:55

No worries. So with that being said, next week, I'll probably do a smoke pit episode just to keep it going, but we'll probably make it for the public. So participation could be at the max. Just expect that bonus free Friday for everybody out there. So I'll be leaning on the pit masters to keep the show moving forward.

Mac: 01:57:18

So just next Friday, tune in, all that good stuff. Yeah, that's about it, man. DFPN is blowing up. We got a lot of good stuff going on. And we can't wait to move further.

Mac: 01:57:32

Just expect, you know, I don't know why the end of the smoke pit turns into the DFPN promo, but I'm not mad at it, you know? We're doing big things, We're doing big things. So once again, shout out to Danny and the rest of the crew over at Cutting Edge for coming over, being the newest addition. And then of course, Awesome Zone, TTRPG, the amazing team of EJ and Jen who have been over here rocking with us for over a year doing the TTRPG. Moving forward, just expect more things.

Mac: 01:58:07

We will be trying to be on location at a lot of these cons and things a little bit more. Yep. Big moves in November over at Cape Yep. We'll be doing what seems to be our first live podcast in front of a live audience. So stay tuned for that.

Mac: 01:58:29

And, you know, just stay tuned to the channel. Patrons, tuned. We got a new merch shop on the way. Teespring was doing us dirty, so we're just moving over to another one. So stay tuned for the link for that.

Mac: 01:58:42

And of course, once we get that up and going, Patrons expect you'll be getting the private discount code for the merch and all that other stuff. So with that being said, this is our first two hour show in a minute. Yes. But again, like we took last week off, there's a lot of stuff to get to. No big Yeah.

Mac: 01:59:04

Time. Good time. Shout out to all the pit masters that joined us live. Again, if you wanna do this more often, we do go live for everybody, normally once a month on the first Friday and every other Friday is in the Patreon. So just check the description below.

Mac: 01:59:20

The Patreon, five gets you access to all the live things and behind the scenes content. You can watch full sessions of NoxAturna before they drop on YouTube, chat live, interact with the people, no gimmicks, watch live, ask questions. WrestleMania coming up, a lot of the storylines, get, know, Black and his homie, partner in crime, Frank D. D Vader, I'm sorry.

Blak: 01:59:50

D Vader.

Mac: 01:59:51

Fabulous Frankie D, AKA D Vader. But yeah, follow him too, man. Cosplay is on a hundred thousand. That dude is super serious about it. His Kylo Ren thing going on now.

Mac: 02:00:03

So I'm just shouting everybody out at this point. USDA, they steady letting you know what comics you need to go ahead and cop. Nightmares and Nerdscapes, Horror Reviews, put his review out for a woman in the yard, gave his honest thoughts, and it had me change my perspective on that movie. I still think it's terrible, but I don't think it's I think it's just terrible for me. I was leaving it thinking it should be terrible for everybody.

Mac: 02:00:34

But he convinced me, you know what I'm saying? Megan, I see you. You say you missed us. We missed you too.

Blak: 02:00:40

We missed you.

Mac: 02:00:42

And then he's like, Fair enough. Fair enough when it comes to that. I still, and I'll say this, CJ, I appreciate what you're doing when it comes to reviews. You're kind of putting us on on how to better do reviews.

Blak: 02:00:57

Absolutely, yep.

Mac: 02:00:59

And I wanna dabble on that. I don't wanna take away from it, but I do think it's, like I said, I got the AMC little, you know, pay $25 a month, you get to watch three movies a week. I'm just like, why not just watch these things? We're gonna check out Drop, heavily recommended by CJ. The new Bloom House, I believe.

Mac: 02:01:19

So I think Bloom House has had to, to me, get that turd out the way with woman in the yard and start dropping the real shit. So we'll see how that goes. But I'm gonna stop talking and we're gonna end this episode, unless you got anything else for the folks, man.

Blak: 02:01:33

That's it, man. Thank you guys for tuning in tonight. You guys were awesome. Thank you for the comments.

Mac: 02:01:38

Hey. And as always, you know what it is? Episode 166 of The Smoke Pick coming to the end. As always, I'm the homie Mac, AKA your boy. And I

Blak: 02:01:48

am bread like a king, made us Kelvin Kaylee. Thank you guys for tuning in. Until next time. Have love, make sex, peace.

Mac: 02:02:11

This ain't right.