Ep 165 "Toxic Females in Movies, Unrealistic Morning Routine, & Marvin Sapp Has Lost It"
Hey. We live out here tonight, baby.
Blak:Yes, sir.
Mac:Ain't gonna hold you. This week was was way better than last week for whatever reason. I don't know why. The vibes was just different. No It flowed a little bit better.
Mac:It did. It did. I cannot complain. But for those of us joining us on Patreon, little heads up. You might've noticed that you probably got a message if you were in the $3 here.
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Mac:So the higher tier you are, this will be merch that is not available on our website we get that back up and running. Because Teespring, unfortunately has dropped the ball on some orders that we have been trying to get out since January. It is now in the March and they're saying, well, the holidays had put us behind on production. I'm like, ma'am, it's one fucking shirt. One fucking shirt I ordered January 18.
Blak:Yeah, just tell us the truth.
Mac:Yeah, if y'all ain't got it, just give me my money back and we'll set up a store somewhere else. So that's where we're at with that. But again, dollars 5 gets you everything live streaming, all of that stuff. And then if you wanna donate more to the brand, which we would not turn down at all, feel free to do so and we'll reward you with some exclusive merch from the brand.
Blak:Amen. Amen.
Mac:But
Blak:What's up Nightmares Nerdscapes?
Mac:My man. CJ in the building. Appreciate you, man. But, yeah, we started an hour late. I don't think we should waste these wonderful people's times on this Friday night.
Mac:Wanna just roll the intro and we just get into the show?
Blak:Let's go. We got shenanigans we have to get to tonight.
Mac:Absolutely, sir. Absolutely. We absolutely have to.
Mac:So ladies and gentlemen, episode one sixty five of the smoke pit lie starts
Mac:right now. The following is a presentation of the dad villain podcast network, reminding you to always question the answers.
Blak:Welcome to the smoke pit. It's Friday night, come and take a load off. Come sit in the smoke pit. It's time for us to show off. It's been a long week.
Blak:Come relaxing, get some lapsing, and let's talk about these brackets. And while we at it, tell me whose man's is this? Because I got questions. I'm hoping you can answer it. Get ready because you know we gonna talk a lot of shit.
Blak:It's Mac and Mac. Welcome to the smoke pit.
Mac:Y'all know what it is. Friday night, mood is right. Dynamic duel of Black and Mac here on your screens. Number one streaming show Friday nights. And like we've mentioned, the week was fine for us.
Mac:Don't know how it went for you guys, but hopefully you're rolling into this show ready for some laughs because we of course have a lot to talk about.
Blak:Oh yes.
Mac:As the status update stated, the rain that we've got the past week has watered and fertilized the field of shenanigans on the internet and the harvest was bountiful.
Blak:Very The
Mac:pick of the litter for thus to get into. So y'all know what it is. Jen in the house. What up?
Blak:What up?
Mac:And special things happening. We got
Blak:some people in here that ain't announcing themselves. Hey, to whoever you are. Oh, that's Jeff. What's up, Jeff?
Mac:We see you stalking, lurking in the back. But yeah, we'll just expedite right into the show because there's shit to talk about. But we just can't roll into the show without giving the floor to our one and only Black Mac, who every week gives us inspiring words to attack and get after next week. So Black, what do you have for us this week?
Blak:This week is about hanging in there, and I'll say why you should hang in there for the end of this show. Throughout your journey, there will be ups, there will be downs. Pay very close attention to the downs because when you're down, it may feel like you may be out of it, but there will be an up and we will have a hell of an up when you get there. So hang in there through the tough times. They will be there.
Blak:Stay tough. Tough times don't always last. Tough people do. And that's the toast for this week. And to that, I salute.
Blak:Salute.
Mac:There we go. That's better. Way better than last week. But without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, a post was made in the smoke pit by this handsome individual named Willie McCoy Jr. Referring to Rose from the Titanic as the villain.
Mac:It was a post that I saw, and I posted it
Blak:in here.
Mac:I'll read you the original poster's justification of why Rose is the villain of this. This person says maturity is realizing that in the Titanic film, Rose decides to throw a $250,000,000 pendant in memory of an unemployed man she slept with only once away. A man who never even owned the necklace. She completely disregards the fact that the explorer who brought her to the wreck and built his entire career finding that necklace. Yet she held onto it for decades on the off chance she end up at the wreck site again, just to chuck it into the ocean for no good reason and croaks in his bed.
Mac:Then goes and waltzes past her husband in the afterlife to meet up with her three day fling. Meanwhile, she conveniently leaves out the part where she let Jack, the three day love of of her life, freeze the death because she couldn't scoot over a bit on the giant door. Oh, and maybe, just maybe, her husband of many years might've liked to know she'd been hanging on to a $250 million necklace all that time. How about her granddaughter who was caring for her in early retirement fund? Anyone?
Mac:The real villain of Titanic, ready for it? Not Cal, not even the iceberg. It was Rose. Damn, I had nothing for it. I mean, knew she was a asshole, you know, for letting Jack die.
Mac:I never really thought about it from the husband's standpoint, like, I brought you on the ship, you ain't hanging out with me, you hanging out with old boy down the street or down in the engineer deck. What is happening out here? You know, like, help me understand this Rose. And then because he's acting like a rational person, what is, who is with my wife? Is this dude sleeping with my wife?
Mac:Now he's the villain. Right. That's gaslighting.
Blak:Oh, very much so. Right? So Very much so.
Mac:If you follow the show, you're aware that we've talked about two kind of main girls that most would consider villains. Black is a % on board with Jenae from Forrest Gump, if you wanna plead your case on why she is the the toxic of toxics.
Blak:She's up there, but let me tell you, Rose is a real piece of work. Real piece of work you are, Rose. First of all, that that that description.
Mac:Yes.
Blak:Dead on I said this in a group. Dead on balls accurate.
Mac:Yeah. You did. 100%. Deadly accurate. Yep.
Mac:And Go ahead.
Blak:I'll say it. Listen. And it's only because I've gotten married that I know what the significance of a cruise is.
Mac:Uh-huh.
Blak:Or any vacation, bro. Uh-huh. We in it for the cheeks, my guy. So if I spin this bread and we go on a cruise and you hop along to some bum that just scrounged this way on a cruise, oh, I'm a have a problem. I'm a have
Mac:a whole issue. I'm a
Blak:be a whole asshole out here. This whole cruise about to get wrecked for everybody. Because how dare you?
Mac:Nah. Jeff is like, can't argue that point, it's valid. It's valid. People are looking at it, it's valid. But so so Rose is like this, this is a strong case.
Mac:Like it was so eloquently put, facts were listed, nothing can be denied. But Jenny is kinda on your list is like, Rose, she did Forrest so wrong. If you haven't seen Forrest Gump, for those who haven't, for whatever reason, give them kind of a rundown on why Jenny is also toxic.
Blak:So Jenny, I equated to like the girl in high school that you wanted, that you chased after, that you absolutely crushed on. Right? Mhmm. She didn't really she didn't really want you. And then later on in life, like, when shit falls off the rails, she can't get the shit together.
Blak:You know what I mean? Like far as he's still got the crush. Now for Jenny's part, she had a little bit of trauma attached to this. Mhmm. You know what I'm saying?
Blak:She had a little bit of a rough upbringing that we found out about. We could blame some of her issues on the trauma that she went through. That's it doesn't stop the fact that what you did was trifling. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it it don't stop that.
Blak:The act is the act. You know what I mean?
Mac:Yeah.
Blak:So there's that for Jenny. Rose is completely different. So here's So wait, real quick.
Mac:Here's Jenny. I haven't seen Forrest Gump in a while. When she slept with Forrest, did she already know she had AIDS?
Blak:I believe so.
Mac:Come on, dog.
Blak:It's been a while since I've seen the two.
Mac:Come on, dog. You know this autistic person has been chasing you his whole life, trying to be the love of your life. When you really when you're when you decide to let him beat the cheeks
Blak:Yeah.
Mac:Your shit was on fucking flame on.
Blak:Bro, you had Johnny Storm all on the outers.
Mac:Bro, you're shit.
Blak:You what mean?
Mac:What what did he call it in the first final four when they like melted doctor duke, a nuclear supernova or whatever? Your shit was supernova. You know you had back at that time, like, that was uncurable.
Blak:Oh, the block was hot.
Mac:Like, in the eighties, they was just like, you got AIDS, death. We can't do
Blak:shit for Yeah. We don't even know what the fuck this is.
Mac:First of all, put on a mask when you talk to me. That's that's how people would treat AIDS back then. Like, it's it's I could catch it from you from the It
Blak:was the new leprosy. You know what I mean? That's what that shit was.
Mac:So when you crawled and and and and crawled back the forest, you had already been ran through, AIDS'd up, and gave gave him that monster, and then you just faded into the sunset. Literally died. Now he raising your kid,
Mac:who probably got the kid probably had AIDS too?
Mac:Like I haven't watched it in a while, I'm just thinking, doesn't that shit like get passed or some shit? You had the
Blak:kid in the Yeah, can.
Mac:Oh my God. So I mean, yeah, Ginny is, to me, that qualifies as being up in the hierarchy of a ain't shit female.
Blak:Oh yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Mhmm. Like, I still love you, but I got the ninja. You know what I mean?
Blak:Like Yeah. How much do you love me? How much do you love me, Forrest? Because I got the shit and I may die. But also I have your child too.
Blak:You know what I mean?
Mac:Up. So Brian says in Forrest Gump, Jenny reveals she has an illness, likely HRP and AIDS, after Forrest and Jenny have a child. Oh, wait. So Hold on.
Blak:Hold Hold on. Hold on.
Mac:Hold on. Ahead. Go ahead. Hold on.
Blak:Him have it. Let him have it. Is new information. Not really new information, but it's the
Blak:light bulb.
Blak:Yeah. The
Blak:fuck? So that means she didn't get it from Forrest. No, bro. Jenny Wild, bro.
Mac:Yes. But she
Mac:had it. So for what Brian is saying,
Mac:she let him smash prior to getting AIDS. They had a kid together and then she went out
Mac:after they laid up and had a child,
Mac:she went out and got AIDS from somebody else. Does that the diabolicalness has dialed down a notch. You know what I'm saying? A little bit. She didn't confirm this motherfuckers deathbed by giving them AIDS.
Mac:However, this motherfucker has been chasing you like literally running around the world chasing you, saving you from embarrassing yourself, trying to save your dignity. You let them smash, y'all have a kid and then you back out in the streets to get AIDS and then call for him to come see you? Here's your son? Come on now.
Blak:Ma'am, ma'am, that's pretty trifling.
Mac:You only called me to tell me come get my son because you got AIDS. And now I'm a single dad out here. Oh my god.
Blak:Mean That's trifling. That's trifling.
Mac:She's still
Mac:up there. Like, even even with that new information to me Oh
Blak:yes, she's still up there.
Mac:Okay. Okay.
Blak:She's still up there. It like that it don't excuse the fact that she did that shit. You know what I mean? Mhmm. Like, if you really want I'm gonna die.
Mac:Yep.
Blak:Here's my kid. I can't raise him because obviously I'm gonna die.
Mac:I ain't gonna be here. Much longer.
Blak:But also, I was for the streets this whole time.
Mac:Yep. Thanks for the one night of making love to me, Forrest. But I needed my back blown out by these hood rats. Yeah, like purge out And I got caught up. Here's a kid, I'm about to die.
Mac:Blah. You know? And she just bounced. That's So I'm a big, big, probably the strongest supporter of Kelly Frears, who was the role that Helen Hunt played in Castaway as being equally as, if not the same level of wild. And we've talked about this on the show.
Mac:Force, or not force, force come, Tom Hanks. Same person.
Mac:Same person. Tom Hanks
Mac:be getting getting done in bad by these females in movies. Tom Hanks proposes to this woman, goes on a business trip, plane crashes. This man is gone for six years? Five. Five years, five years on an island, fighting tooth and nail to survive to make it back home.
Mac:Because in his little pocket watch or whatever, there's a picture of his fiancee. He's like, I gotta get back to this woman. The love for this woman is fueling my desire to live. This man had a fucking cavity that was fucking his tooth up. He took the tooth out himself, knocked his self out, just passed out from the pain, all of this stuff.
Mac:My man gets rescued, comes back to The States. He's like, I cannot wait to see my fiance. He comes back, she roll up in there with his fucking dentist. The same dude he was checking in with in the beginning of the movie is now smashing his fiance. No, they married now at that point.
Blak:Yeah, they were married. Didn't they have a kid too?
Mac:Yes. At 18 old. No, a two year old. It was about to be a two year old. So I'm just like, you're gone for five years, two year old, right?
Mac:That means what about nine, ten months prior to they were smashing raw, right? Oh yeah, at that point you was gone to two years and some change, right? Prior to that, I'm assuming some dating or something had to happen, some courtship phase, the engagement, right?
Mac:Oh yeah. How long did you wait before
Mac:you was back out here in these streets, Kelly?
Blak:Nah bro, this is like,
Mac:there's no sign of death.
Mac:No. No DNA, no bodies. Nope. I went through hell, I reinvented fire. I was out here in the stone age coming back.
Mac:I lost my shit because a volleyball got caught in the rip current. I was losing my shit on this island girl, to get back to you. And you fucking the dentist?
Blak:I would have The dentist. Who?
Mac:I say this, like I talked to Apple about it. I was in jest. In jest, but like there is a serious undertone. Like I was speaking in code to her and I hope she picked up on it. Baby, if I ever go anywhere and they're just like, we can't find them.
Mac:You can like, you cannot move on until it's confirmed that I am no longer here. You can't do that.
Blak:At all. Absolutely, absolutely.
Mac:Because if I could, bro,
Mac:you thought Aaron the plumber was Crash Out man? You thought, bro, I roll up to your house
Mac:and you got Christmas lights up and you got this two year old baby sitting in there feeding it up, bro, I'm a flip that fucking high chair over. Fuck this goddamn kid. You know what I'm And then as I'm about to leave, like I come by, you tell me,
Mac:we were lost, I didn't know what to do, I was hurt, he was here, blah blah blah blah blah. I'm just, I'm waited. Weeks? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Mac:I'm doing the math the whole time. How old's the baby? What was 24? Alright, bet that's two years. Right?
Blak:That's two years.
Mac:About forty weeks for a pregnancy.
Blak:Plus nine months.
Mac:Right, forty weeks for a pregnancy, so that's like ten months, nine months and some change, right? I'm assuming like, I don't know if that was the first night y'all smashed Raw, but I'm assuming y'all was smashing raw before.
Blak:Y'all was gifted. Y'all got to the point where y'all were comfortable smashing
Mac:Right. So hopefully y'all was married by that time and you wasn't just out here smashing raw before. Know what I'm saying? Like, I'm all this math in my head. I'm be
Mac:like no, yeah. First question, yeah. I'm gonna Bro, that that gift where the person This kid what, two? That means
Mac:Hold up. You said it's two, right? So that means y'all was doing this, and then this, and then this. And I was only gone for five years. So you waited a This was
Blak:a year and some Right around the time I had to take this tooth out my mind.
Mac:That was around next Christmas y'all was already dating. Yep. You ain't even wait a leap year bitch, like come on. Come on. Where am even?
Mac:You did it.
Blak:Where am I You got
Blak:the comfort. I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm so sorry that you lost him. Let me go ahead and get in them guts.
Mac:Oh. Does he have to fight
Blak:the That's what that was.
Mac:Does he have to fight the dentist?
Blak:Oh yeah, nah, nah, nah.
Mac:You ain't
Mac:fighting the dentist? No.
Blak:Nah. Not her
Mac:bro. The beef is between you and her. Yeah.
Blak:It's between it's between me and her. Motherfucker, you ain't even wait. You know what I mean?
Mac:It's on-site.
Blak:Yeah. Yeah. You can't even wait. Let me walk to this house. Let me walk to my house.
Blak:My house. Yes. Let me walk to my house, see you in it with another dude with another kid.
Mac:Fam. And
Blak:after doing the math, I'm slapping some
Mac:man, Four years.
Blak:Oh, that's worse.
Mac:Oh, no, bro. That's worse. Wow.
Blak:So that means at least three years. That's at least three.
Mac:Yeah.
Blak:Off rip with the baby.
Mac:Yeah.
Blak:That really means like comfort smash bro.
Mac:Brian said, did he have the key to the house? Nah, he pulled up and knocked on the door because he knew the address, right? And she comes to the door, she's like, Oh, hey. You know, I think old buddy answered the door first, Oh, come on in. Yeah, she's right here.
Mac:And then old buddy goes upstairs and like lets them chat, because the baby's down there. He's like, I know you got a lot to catch up on, like fam, don't Get
Blak:your bitch ass off my house.
Mac:And then the wild part, he's leaving, she runs out in the rain and gets in the truck and kisses him. And then it's like, I gotta go back in the house.
Blak:By the streets. You for the streets.
Mac:I would've went in there, hey, just a heads up old boy, hey, tongue in her mouth five minutes ago, bruh. Literally, I could tell you what she ate dinner. Yeah. Off top.
Blak:Stroganoff motherfucker. Yeah, was eating stroganoff in here.
Mac:Yo, I could never, I could never bro. Like the level of retaliation smashing I would have to do the rest of my life to
Blak:get Oh bro, I have to go after her click because I know she got one.
Mac:Yep, yep. Where your friends at?
Blak:All of them.
Mac:Revenge smash.
Mac:Revenge smash. %. Yeah. And Brian brings up a good point. That's like the whole Rick and Shane thing in Walking Dead.
Mac:Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I didn't like What was his wife, Rick's wife's name? Started with a J, right? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, but I couldn't.
Mac:So that's why I'm just like Kelly is wild. Because if he was on the island for four years, you got a two year old kid now, plus the not yet, bro, you ain't even wait a year before you started making moves without me.
Blak:Trash.
Mac:So that's the holy trinity for the streets to me and movies. Don't know if anybody has anybody else that could be added and then we can make a Mount Rushmore of this shit, but.
Blak:No, there's one. Hold on. Sanae Layton played her. But she was she was for the streets too. A Family That Praise, I believe it's called.
Mac:Oh, that's a Tyler Perry movie. I haven't seen that. If I see a Tyler Perry film, just don't give it run.
Blak:No, so not Lathan in this movie is absolute savage bro.
Mac:No, I don't believe. I'm not saying I don't trust you. I'm just not gonna watch it. I know Kathy Bates is in it, so I mean, I hear good things about it, I know like Tyler Perry, it's a Tyler Perry film and Tyler Perry's in it. And that's the one, how long was you going home?
Mac:I noticed when you came back that you was wearing this, you didn't start wearing this perfume. I've seen clips from it and I'm just like, what Tyler Perry just playing? How long has this been going on? I've been nervous.
Blak:No, Tyler Perry, Perry was a
Mac:ho in It's been twenty something days since we last did anything. I'm just like, nigga, you too dark to be this light skinned, bro.
Mac:It is coming from a light
Mac:skinned motherfucker. You know what I'm saying?
Mac:Tyler Perry, you acting real light skinned right now.
Blak:No. Tyler Tyler was a hoe in that movie. Tyler was the friend that was like, Man, I don't even wanna get in this. Bro, just motherfucker lie.
Mac:Was Janet Jackson in that one too
Mac:or no?
Blak:No. No. What movie
Mac:is the one where she was looking at an old buddy from Power? Or not power, but a
Blak:Oh, that's a good one too.
Mac:So you over here.
Blak:Oh, so you doing the bending? You over here
Mac:getting bent over. Ain't nobody bending me Oh.
Blak:Oh. Oh, so you
Mac:doing the bending? Who wrote that script? Because if I was Michael Jai White and I was reading my lines and I'm just
Blak:like, oh, ho, ho, ho.
Mac:Don't slap
Blak:after this or a minute. I don't
Mac:have a comeback for this? Oh, okay, I can't play this role. I absolutely can't. I absolutely can't.
Blak:You just sit and look astonished.
Mac:Yep. Because you can't answer it. Because now
Blak:you caught. Nah bro.
Mac:Oh, so you the masculine gay?
Blak:What
Mac:happened? But yep,
Mac:so that's the
Mac:So you said Sania Lathan, she did Yeah. What kind of wrap up what she did to be on the Mount Rushmore with these other top of the line toxic women?
Blak:Oh, so Kathy Bates' son in that movie was the head of a company, of a construction company. And her husband worked for that company. But she was having an affair with the son. The owner of the construction company. Making her husband think that their kid was his.
Blak:But the whole time like the dude was funneling her money and she was living off of it, but wasn't taking care of her hot bro. She's a bro.
Mac:She she gotta be up there now. Without even seeing the movie, based on this information, would you trick another dude to take care of the kid of a oh my God. That is next level. Because you got this guy invested into this motherfucker. Like, this is my seed.
Mac:This is my child. Emotionally invested. Did he find out it wasn't his?
Blak:Yeah, so the way she told him, he was like, I'm taking my son and I'm leaving. And she was like, was like
Mac:News flash.
Blak:She was like, yeah. She told him the the the owner of the construction company, she said that's his last name. I was like, bro. You are for the streets. Not not even for the streets.
Blak:You front of underworld bro, that's some dark shit.
Mac:Wow.
Blak:That's some sitting motherfucker off the edge and he ain't coming back.
Mac:Yeah, you don't this-
Blak:You don't come back from that.
Mac:That's the villain origin story. That's how you get people out here in Gotham falling into vats of chemicals and coming out just wild. CJ says that would have turned into a murder mystery real quick. A whodunit, if you will. Yeah.
Mac:Right.
Mac:A knives out, like,
Mac:But so that's our Mount Rushmore. And if you got any, you know, if listening to this, watching the video, if you got any that should be added to this list, let us know. And we'll do a rack and stack. But that seems like a good solid start to a Mount Rushmore of toxicity for these lead But there's another thing I wanna talk about before we get into the, did I just watch? And it is a clip of Waka Flaca.
Mac:Don't know if you guys remember him, but if you do, you're probably my age or, you know, around that.
Mac:Former rapper?
Blak:I don't know what the fuck Waka is
Mac:now. Former rapper.
Blak:Former rapper.
Mac:He was on a show and they were asking, guess the topic came up of if the mother of your child and your child are both in a precarious situation where you can only save one, who would it be? Right? The question that, why the fuck you asking me this shit lady? What are those situations, right? Where you need to say something like that, but of course he does it.
Mac:So we're gonna go ahead and play this clip and we'll discuss.
Woman Interviewer:Let's say, let's say, because to me, I feel like marriage is very different from being husband and wife. I feel like most people are trained and groomed to get married and have children. That's the way the world works. And somehow women feel like they're more valued. They feel like they're almost better if you are a wife and a mother.
Woman Interviewer:Now, being husband and wife, biblically speaking, is completely different. The way that you show up in your relationship, how you show up for your partner, the things that you go through, and how you grow through the things that life throws at you is completely different than when you're just married. So that being said, scenario, you're on a boat in the middle of the ocean.
Mac:See, Off Rip, if I wanna think, you talk about husband. Alright, so after I laid that foundation where like, you guys have to be in it to win it, husband and wife, the bond. Alright, so y'all at the ocean, right? And like, woah, woah, woah, are trying to flip this shit out of nowhere? Oh, you're muted.
Blak:I just figured that out. This is like, you gave me this whole spiel and I'm like, okay, now you're throwing this scenario and
Mac:Out of nowhere. So scenario. On a boat in the middle of the ocean, like, where you going with this shit?
Woman Interviewer:With your wife and your your child, and it's still a young child. Both of them get lodged into the water.
Wakka:My wife.
Woman Interviewer:You're gonna save your wife? Hell, yeah. Why?
Wakka:It's my wife.
Mac:She looked taken aback like
Mac:you ain't even let me finish this scenario. My wife. What? My wife. My wife.
Wakka:She's my wife.
Mac:She like bullshit. I'm trying to think of some follow-up questions. Excuse me? You go. Go out of rate.
Mac:Yep.
Woman Interviewer:Period. That's it.
Wakka:I love my wife before I love my child. How the fuck do I choose my child over something or someone that created you? I'll come respectfully. I gotta make another one.
Mac:Now hear me out, I'm not laughing
Mac:because it's a lose lose situation in that scenario.
Blak:Very much,
Mac:very It's a lose lose. My problem is the lack of consideration or thought or compassion in his response. You know what, as a man in this situation, because it's a hypothetical, I'm jumping in with him. I can't live without my family. Just give that cheesy answer and keep it pushing.
Blak:Keep it moving.
Mac:Because does he have kids?
Mac:Because if I heard my dad say some shit like this.
Wakka:Listen.
Mac:Hey, you going in that nursing home immediately. The first sign
Blak:of you dropping
Mac:a cup out the cabinet. Well,
Blak:guess it's your time.
Mac:Oh, I can't reach that.
Blak:Damn, the medicine bottle
Blak:won't open Can come
Mac:get this old man? He cannot take care of himself. Son, what? Get out of here. That's what it was for me.
Mac:The lack of any kind of compassion, concern, thought into making this answer. And can we stop saying it respectfully before we say some wild ass shit thinking
Blak:Yeah, that's
Mac:wild. That is worse than no due respect. Right. Respectfully child, I will let you die. Respectfully.
Mac:And I'll just make another child. Instead of you jungle risking your life to save your child, I'll save my wife, I'll jump in there and try to get my kid.
Blak:Damn Lord Walter in this motherfucking light heat.
Mac:I need to hear what else the fuck he says.
Wakka:Because I can't make a I can't I can't I cannot make the same woman I love. It's impossible.
Woman Interviewer:It's impossible.
Wakka:Like like, you can't play with love. Like, real talk. And and this ain't for people that's inspiring to be loved or living in just bought apartment with each other, the conversation. Uh-uh. No.
Wakka:It is real. So I know that kid, we wasn't meant for you.
Woman Interviewer:I feel the same way.
Blak:Oh, fuck. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. I'm gonna bring up a I'm gonna bring up a scenario because this actually happened.
Mac:Okay.
Blak:So a wrestler, crime time, Chad, he was was the
Mac:he talking about
Mac:the the profits before street profits? Yeah. Money, money.
Blak:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Him, the tall one. So he had to make a decision like this, right?
Blak:So he was like, either save himself or save him kid. He chose his kid. And he actually died out in sea. This happened in California. So I see where Walker's coming from, but on the other end bro, you can't make that type of decision till you end it.
Blak:You know what I mean?
Mac:You gotta do what you can to save both.
Blak:Right. Right. Like yank your wife. I can sit there and say, no, I'm a You don't know what you're gonna do to you in that situation, bro. You might just jump in and try to say both of them.
Blak:And you can't, you can only say one. So logically, where does your head go? Save my kid.
Mac:That lets me like And we talked about this prior to the show. If that was a situation and I saved Apple and let one of my kids go.
Blak:Oh yeah, yeah.
Mac:Apple would murder me. Apple would be so upset. Apple would leave me. Apple would, I would be the lowest of the low in her eyes. Because if you saved the mother and you told the mother, I chose you over your child.
Mac:Because the mother will give her life up for the child.
Blak:For the child, yeah.
Mac:Yep. Like if me and my kids were jowning, I know in my head, Apple get these kids. Because it's what you're about. And I ain't even gonna hold you, you know? My fault for getting to this situation.
Blak:Oh yeah. You could
Blak:be like, we could make another You ain't touching that.
Mac:But baby, you have to make sure I'm dead before you move on. This ain't casting
Blak:Absolutely.
Mac:You act like you gotta watch my body be lifeless in this water and time it. If you don't see no movement within two minutes, all right. Then when they come scoop me up, autopsy. You have to for sure.
Mac:Because if whatever reason I, if
Mac:they resuscitate me, and I find out you doing some shit from Cast Away, baby.
Blak:Hey, hey. Let's go back out to the soap. This
Mac:shit about to be reverse punisher out here.
Blak:But he like, man, we can make another one. Bro, I can guarantee you, you ain't touching that again. You ain't touching it again. You ain't got that kind of pull. I don't care how rich you are, bro.
Mac:I don't know what
Blak:If you let your kid go to save your wife, ten out of 10, you ain't smashing.
Mac:No, your wife At
Blak:least until she's ready.
Mac:The mother of that child is done with you.
Blak:Oh yeah, pretty much bro. The mother of the
Mac:child is done with you. Because you gonna pull her up, why did you save me? Why didn't you save? Baby, respectfully, we'll just make another one.
Blak:Oh, she about to put you through hell.
Mac:Bro, sleep sleep with one eye open. She gonna kill you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She gonna kill you.
Mac:There's no way she's gonna let you make another child knowing that you're not gonna love that child enough to save its life.
Blak:Bro, the postpartum is gonna No bro, it's gonna wreck you.
Mac:It's it's this is my let let me let me let him finish this shit. I'm I'm pretty sure he doesn't make more sense, but let's hear.
Woman Interviewer:And you know, I got thousands of comments of people saying that's because you've never been a mother, that you've never given birth yet. Oh, and he's gonna divorce you in three seconds. And for me, it feels like a lot of these people are coming from trauma. Y'all don't really if and imagine if you treated your spouse with that level of regard, I've seen them respect no. Go But
Wakka:see what you just said? Yeah. How people gave you the opinion? Yeah. You know how much power you could have gained just by saying that's your opinion.
Wakka:I don't know me.
Woman Interviewer:Oh, I don't care.
Wakka:No, I'm just telling you, like, our spirits, I'm telling you, if you could learn, like, it don't matter because they throwing you off your game. You're drifting. The one thing the devil love the most is people that drift. True. So when you got purpose, your purpose was you being real.
Wakka:How you feel? You explain why you said it done. Move on.
Blak:Period.
Mac:Nah, that ain't it, dawg. Nah. That ain't it, Nah. That's just my opinion though. That's just my opinion.
Mac:I just don't see a world where any like, I have seen so many like women in my family have given birth and you just see that change where they
Blak:Nothing else matters.
Mac:Yeah, nothing else matters but these kids. Yeah. Like they still wanna get out and live their life. But if something were to happen to their kids, put their kids in danger, these women would just gain superpowers and do whatever it would take to save their children. Right.
Mac:I don't see a world where you would save the mother, let the child die and you'd be like, we'll just make another the one that created you will just make another one. We'll make another one of you.
Blak:That's wild bro. That's wild. No she doesn't.
Mac:She's like, wait, she don't have kids? She does it.
Blak:But the this is gonna lead me to another Uh-oh. I'm sick of these people without no kids trying to
Mac:With no experience in the shit they talking about. Bro, you
Blak:have zero experience in parody. Shut the fuck up. You don't know you don't know what this shit's like, bro. You don't know what this shit's like. Because I got I got flat out tell my kid, I I brought you on this earth.
Blak:I could take you off this motherfucker. Mhmm. You know what I mean? But in the same breath, I would die for them.
Mac:Yeah. No. You told the story You you told the story the other day.
Blak:What that means.
Mac:With with with Khamani and the and the whole gotten the message like, why the fuck are in that school? And you was just
Blak:Bro, burn this bitch down. You have no idea what
Mac:you're supposed Shit about to
Mac:be man on fire out here, bro. Right. Where the fuck am I? I'm putting bombs and and anus, all the everything my man Denzel did in that movie. Where's the bomb?
Mac:It's in your butt. Yes. Yes. And I'm a blow you up if you if
Mac:that's the shit I'm on.
Blak:Yes. You don't know what that shit is, bro. Like, you don't know what you don't know what parenting is because you're not a parent. Like, you can see other people's experiences, but you're living through those experiences. You don't have one of your own.
Blak:So your argument behind anything behind parenting is fucking invalid to me. I hate those types, bro. Like, I really do.
Mac:A 1,000. It's like the people try to give relationship advice and ain't in no relationship. Man, what you gotta do is look for a woman. Ain't no woman looking for a man like bro, do you have a woman? Because I choose not Oh, fuck out of here.
Blak:Right.
Mac:God damn.
Blak:You don't know what it's like. You don't know what it's like.
Mac:Fuck you. No, I'm playing. No, but seriously. But yeah, I just thought that was a weird aspect to take me being married twenty plus years. Like we've had these little hypothetical things where it's just like, so boom boom this happened, me or the kids.
Mac:Both of us are always saying the kids. Right. You know, like it's the kid first, because I imagine like a dad and a kid fall into a fucking lion pit at the zoo. Lions like, I'm about to fuck you up. First thing the dad gonna do, grab the kid and try to toss them the fuck back up, right?
Mac:Yeah. And it's an unsaid thing because I'm sure like Apple be reaching out like, throw the kid to me, I'm a grab the kid. And then after that, hey, I'm just trusting you to do some magical dad shit to get out of here. And if you don't, it's both fun do. It's been real.
Mac:Same shit, like if Apple fell in
Mac:there, like I'm pretty sure she'd be whoop. There's a scene in this movie Owen Wilson was in, I think they were in China or some shit, and like a rebellion was going down, and they were coming after everybody who was American the movie, and they was up on the roof of a hotel, and they were breaking down the door to get up there. And, you know, the mom jumped over and the oldest daughter jumped over and then there was the baby daughter. And she didn't, yeah, she was physically unable to jump over there. Owen Wilson picked his kid up and slung her from one building to the other.
Mac:And the wife caught her. I'm just like, that's that
Mac:dad shit.
Mac:Then he just got up running started jumped and he barely made it. That's the shit that's supposed to happen. You ain't getting your wife jumping over to the other building like, respectfully.
Blak:I'm sorry.
Mac:Respectfully. You
Blak:getting cussed out till it's over.
Mac:You motherfucker.
Mac:Fuck you, dad. They about
Mac:to fuck y'all up too. So oh, man. Gin said Ryan Reynolds said it in a in a guess, I'll use my wife's body as a human shield to protect my child. Oh man. But we would be remiss if we did not get into the what did we just watch segment, because like we said, the internet is full of So without further ado, let us get into it.
Wakka:Tell me I did not just see that.
Mac:Man oh man. So there's been a clip that has been super viral lately. You've probably seen it, it's like this dude who is an influencer, you will, coach, something like that, but he's filming his morning routine. And like, if you make any kind of content, you watch this little clip and you realize like all the extra steps this man took to do this. Setting the camera up to walk in like it's nonchalant.
Mac:The different angles, walking out of the door making it look like he's just walking. He went outside and set up a tripod, put a camera up, went back in, back out, acted out, walked off, walked back, turned off the camera, put it in a different spot. The part where he's doing the elevators, that's the wild part, because you just got this bitch sitting outside of an elevator like, you run-in the elevator real quick, push the button, push the button, hopefully nobody pushed the button to make the elevator move up, you could come out and walk like, come on bro, come on. But anyway, it's it's but like I said, if you make content, you're looking at the the amount of effort that went into just making this video. But I mean, it went viral, you know?
Blak:It did.
Mac:My my man is out here.
Blak:My man got the results he wanted.
Mac:He did. He did. But I'm a bring it up and we'll watch it together. And you can see how ridiculous this thing is. But it says here, fitness coach and entrepreneur, Ashton Hall has dedicated his career to encouraging others to prioritize their health.
Mac:In doing so, he shared many parts of his wellness journey online, including a recent change to his morning routine that says it improved his life. According to the now viral video, Hall starts his morning at nearly 4AM, completes his routine around 8AM. The extensive routine includes working out, spending time with God, prioritizing skincare and more. While folks on Twitter are sharing their thoughts about the clip, Hall says his main goal is to encourage morning routines that promote better health and wholesome wellness with prioritizing God first as the main thing. What do y'all think?
Mac:So we'll go ahead and play the the clip and y'all let us know what you think. Oh, my bad. We'll run it back.
Obnoxious Phone:So we're gonna be serious about the Lord's business.
Mac:So looking at it, bro, we gotta go ahead and get in at least 10,000.
Blak:Thank you.
Mac:You're muted, man.
Blak:It's too fucking much.
Mac:Indeed. It's too much.
Blak:Indeed. By 04:15, I'm going back to bed, bro.
Mac:I wake up and it's not a recall, what's happening? Right. Like my first meeting wasn't until 09:00. What am I doing?
Blak:What am I doing?
Obnoxious Phone:It's to the point where like,
Mac:if I get up earlier than my normal time, Apple's like, what's wrong? Carn two,
Blak:carn What's
Mac:on? What are you doing? Where are you going? The part that kills me is this part here, right? So it says 07:36 when he starts this jump.
Mac:Yeah, when he gets to the pool it says 07:40. I'm like bro, you was floating in the air for four minutes before you jumped in this. You're just making these timestamps up bro.
Obnoxious Phone:A certain point,
Mac:do I know people that get up at four and go to the gym? A %. You know? Yep. %.
Mac:The main part of this that bothers me, is after he goes on the balcony and does his little push ups, and he goes back in the house, and he has the phone volume so loud at
Blak:fucking Chat.
Mac:He has that shit so loud at, like, four fucking 20 or some shit. What we need to do is get back to the Lord. Like
Blak:Man, turn that shit the fuck down. I'm going to the goddamn landlord. Part before me tripping, bro. Yes.
Obnoxious Phone:You can't have shit like that, man.
Mac:My wife like, my I love her. But we'll be upstairs later in bed, I'm watching TV like Lakers game or something, And she'll be looking at TikToks or something on her phone, volume loud. And I'm just like, so I turned the volume on the TV up. She turned the volume of the phone up and I'm just like, well, what is happening? Is like, do you need the volume that loud?
Mac:It is like a song playing in the background with some other shit. I'm like, this shit is ridiculously loud. Women, why do y'all play the volume so loud on y'all?
Blak:Babes. Come on. Now you see me trying to watch Babes. Babes.
Mac:Oh my god. Bro, it is yeah. We gotta put the gun first. Bro, it is 04:20 in the morning. You just got done with your push ups.
Mac:You not even fully awake yet.
Blak:Right.
Obnoxious Phone:You ain't got all that money you got, you ain't got no AirPods? Really? No earbuds?
Blak:Some headphones or something, man. Come on, bro.
Mac:But it I mean, it's that this you know, let me get in. You know, I I go swimming with my Rolex on. Thank you. Walk out. Go back.
Mac:Come back up here. And then he starts Sir, with numbers like that, we gotta get at least 10, this shit.
Blak:The banana peel, bro.
Mac:Motherfuckers be doing any and everything, thinking that they found some shit to clear their skin up.
Blak:I'm just gonna eat this banana.
Mac:Bro, just put some soap and water on. Like, get it, like moisturizing.
Blak:Bro.
Mac:All that stuff, like bro, I'm not saying I'm
Blak:the impatient Neutrogena crafted a formula specifically.
Mac:I'm not saying I'm the epitome of facial skincare and stuff. I use soap and water and then I use the little Stridex shit right, on my way, you know. Don't moisturize your face, you don't put lotion, I absolutely don't. And it is what it is. Like, maybe I could take better care, but like my face ain't breaking out, my face ain't doing, you know what I'm Like, it's fine.
Mac:You know, it's not glistening or whatever this man's trying to get his shit to do. But the last thing I'm a do is walk around smelling like goddamn banana Laffy Taffy's all day. A motherfucking got fucking insects and shit like me.
Obnoxious Phone:Why do these flies
Mac:keep fucking with you? Yeah. You got banana residue on your fucking face.
Blak:Spiders jumping on your face and shit because they know.
Mac:Walking past monkeys in the zoo, they losing their goddamn shit. My god.
Blak:Oh. Oh. Following your ass.
Obnoxious Phone:What did you what did you
Mac:did you do to them, Ashton? I don't even know. I just showed up. I don't you got banana residue on your face, bro. Yeah.
Mac:You what you talking about? What did say? So you're not gonna show how he wakes his chest? Oh, man. What did he say?
Mac:Funny he wiped the banana peel on his face, just leave it there, don't wipe it off. He didn't show that part the thing, and then he puts on a suit with that fake ass webinar he was having. Bro, with those numbers, we gotta at least get 5,000.
Blak:We got 10 Look
Mac:at this shit. 09:06AM. Damn, we gotta at least get 10,000. Look at these time, the timestamps just fucked it up. You.
Mac:Ain't nobody gonna With another bottle. Like these are the biggest bottles of water. My man just be drinking it like they're glasses of water. This man does with water, he uses What
Blak:he don't drink, he putting it on his face.
Mac:Yeah. Dunk in his face and people are just like, well, that's actually legit. Like, no. The fuck it's like, again, I'm not I'm not out here trying to win any beauty pageants. I don't fucking know if it works.
Mac:But yeah. But it has spawned a lot of viral mockeries of this. I don't know if you've seen them, like, if you're on TikTok or whatever. People are just doing the most and, like, taking pictures of their shopping carts, having five bottles of this shit in there with fucking three bunches of bananas, I'm about to get ripe for the summer. You know, with the caption and shit.
Blak:So
Mac:hell, and there's also been a report that he was renting out this penthouse in Miami, but then he recently got kicked out of it.
Blak:He got evicted, yeah.
Mac:He got evicted
Blak:from I saw that. All in, you can't even stay in that motherfucker, that's wild.
Mac:All of that shit. But the most out of pocket shit we saw was where's he at? Oh, this motherfucker here. So controversial Malawian prophet Shepard Bashiri shares a miraculous video of himself walking on air. So the caption here is, Prophet Bashiri walks on air because he's trying to tell his congregation how chosen of a man of God he is, that he could perform miracles on this planet that nobody else can.
Mac:So people were saying he's lying. He's telling them, I can walk on air. People are like, sir, you're lying. So he
Obnoxious Phone:was like, I'll show you.
Blak:I'll show you.
Mac:I'll take a video of myself walking on the air, and he blessed us with it here. So I would like for all of you to sit and just be in awe. Marvel.
Blak:At this.
Mac:At this miraculous
Blak:Don't don't say God ain't real.
Obnoxious Phone:And then I like how the camera goes side to side.
Mac:See, nobody was there to hold them He
Obnoxious Phone:coming down holding his hands up like, see,
Mac:my hands are here. And then he gets to the bottom of the stairs and he's like, oh, look at this. I'm going to air.
Blak:I got him.
Mac:I got you. And then he goes back on the ground and then the camera moves back out, hands back up like, My hands were up here the whole time and the camera's like, see?
Blak:Ain't nobody ain't nobody there. Ain't nobody there.
Obnoxious Phone:How is that possible? It mustn't be God. That's the only like, with and then they posted
Mac:it like, we got it. This is
Blak:We walk by faith here.
Mac:Look at that. Look at that.
Obnoxious Phone:Look how look how shaky the
Mac:zoom back out was. Like, the dude was like trying to squeeze and zoom back out.
Blak:Don't go back too far yet. Don't go back too far yet.
Mac:Like, he just ain't holding onto the wall and the fucking railing right here. Like, when he zoom are you zoomed in on the feet? You're in on the feet, right? Alright. Let's go to Alright.
Blak:Alright. Alright. At me. Cut the volume down. Look at me.
Blak:Alright.
Mac:Get down. Get down. Don't not fast enough. Alright. Cool.
Mac:Yeah. Yeah.
Blak:Got
Mac:it. You thought you thought I couldn't do it.
Blak:Faith.
Obnoxious Phone:I will say what the look at Jed.
Mac:This could've went dark.
Obnoxious Phone:What if his and his feet just started dangling?
Blak:Pointing towards the ground? They
Mac:just start moving faster just my god. Said, Malawi needs a better sound effects budget. I walk on air because I'm a ghost. But that's just bro, if if you look up, like any pastor from any African country or anything like that.
Blak:Oh, be Just
Mac:be trying to do the most stunts.
Blak:They'd be wild.
Mac:Oh my god. Remember the dude that was just I got caught up into heaven in the middle of the sermon and there was
Blak:a And
Mac:they pulled
Blak:his ass
Obnoxious Phone:up with a damn sheet wrapped around him up into the ceiling.
Blak:Dude resurrected the dead.
Mac:Like
Obnoxious Phone:nobody there was just like, y'all y'all think that's how God's gonna call us up with bedsheets? That's how you escape prison. Yes. You tie bedsheets together. What does he do?
Obnoxious Phone:Am I the only one seeing this shit?
Mac:But Oh my God. That leads us. Since, you know, the last two, you know, Ashton was just like, he just wants to encourage people to prioritize a morning routine that puts God first. We have Shepard Bouchari here showing us that if you walk with God long enough, you'll be able to walk on air. Like, He's only like what, four inches off the ground here.
Mac:What That's what benefit does that give you? If you walk with God, you can float over puddles on the ground. Like,
Obnoxious Phone:the level of dedication you have
Mac:to give to God to walk two inches off the ground, you know, for fucking five seconds. It's not worth it. But there's somebody who believes they were called by God to the point where he is willing to risk being charged with, what is it, 40,000 counts of kidnapping or whatever it fuck it was? Anyway, I'm pretty sure you guys heard about him. Robbery.
Blak:Yep. Kidnapping.
Mac:Our very own Marvin Sapp, who just recently had a Tiny Desk concert on NPR. Apparently, I guess that didn't bring in any money or help him out any because he was in need of some financial assistance. I don't know.
Obnoxious Phone:But that is what we're here to talk about in this week's Whose Manz is this?
Blak:Marvin, Marvin, Marvin.
Mac:I'm a just go ahead and play the video for y'all
Blak:real quick. Go ahead.
Mac:Because y'all
Marvin Sapp:They understand the cost that is involved. There's 1,000 of you. I see it close them doors. Ushers, close the doors. Close the doors.
Marvin Sapp:Close the doors. Close the doors. It's a thousand that's watching online. This is a small
Mac:Let me just say, if I'm I'm in the church and all of a sudden, he'd just be like, I should close the door. Close the doors. Close the doors. Close the doors. Automatically, I have to leave.
Mac:Don't know what
Blak:I'd go right to the rare wedding. I'm getting I don't know
Mac:what y'all finna do, but y'all ain't finna lock me in no building like this. Nope. Nope. Y'all ain't finna lock me in no building like this. Close the doors.
Mac:Close the fact he had to repeat it, the ushers were just like, what do want us to do?
Obnoxious Phone:The hesitation by the ushers called for what? Did somebody Close the doors.
Mac:Close the doors. Close the Close the doors.
Blak:Alright. So what?
Obnoxious Phone:What the fuck is going on?
Marvin Sapp:See, if I get a thousand online to give this, if I get a thousand in the sanctuary to give this, that's $40,000 tonight. Now, everyone up here, we've all sowed and seated but I need everyone standing up here with us, with me to plant a seed of $100 because again, it cost to sit up here and this is what I need you to do. If you're giving electronically or even if you're giving tangibly, I'm a have y'all come to the altar and give it because I need to see a thousand people moving. Bring them baskets. Bring I want the baskets up here.
Marvin Sapp:I want to see the folk. Y'all start moving. Y'all can bring it right now. Come, come, come, come, come. A thousand people need to give $20 A thousand people need to give $20 A thousand people online need to give $20 This is easy, saints.
Blak:No, it ain't. No. No, it ain't. Bro, I know robbery. I know robbery when I
Mac:You would have said Doors being broken down, glass shattering doors. This is yet another The
Blak:views going through these windows, bro.
Mac:Another film that would be a murder mystery. Either y'all gonna let me out or furniture's about to move in this sanctuary.
Blak:Yeah. Y'all gonna see God working a different way.
Mac:The spirit is fitting to move a few of these pews out the way if y'all don't want to get my family out of this goddamn church.
Blak:Ain't the holy spirit either. It's the spirit of death, motherfuckers. Yeah. Hey, listen, let me out.
Mac:And that's one of my major problems with, what is it, commercialized religion.
Blak:Yeah.
Mac:Mainstream religion. Especially in most of these churches now, where people just come through because it's the prosperity gospel, they're like, if you sow this, you're gonna get this. This, like, and him to just make it seem like it's a trivial thing, is just disrespectful, as you don't know these people's financial situations, came to receive a word, to get encouragement to get through the day, and you're just like, give me, hey, if you're up here on this podium, you're giving a hundred, because it pays, you pay to be, like, what did he say? It cost to be up It cost to be up here, right?
Marvin Sapp:This is a small seed. If I get a thousand online to give this, if I get a thousand in the sanctuary to give this, that's $40,000 tonight. Now everyone up here, we've all sold and seeded.
Mac:So I'm a say this real quick. This motherfucker's hair status, the state of his hair, let this
Blak:shit It's untrustworthy.
Mac:Sir, you're sweating through your shirt, ridiculously.
Blak:Ridiculously. Ridiculously. Ridiculously. You got kicked one over.
Mac:Like, you're nervous. Or Oh yeah. Because he don't work in this building, which is why you asking for this money. He tried to get that air conditioning fix it up, sweating his behind off in there. But like you got the baldy happening, you got the not so quite uncle Phil right here, your hairline's pushed way the fuck back here.
Mac:It's time to just go bald, man. Got amazing voice, but I I didn't know that you was this this on this level of of prosperity preaching, bro. You know? But
Marvin Sapp:But I need anyone standing up here with us, with me, to plant a seed of 100 Because again. What?
Blak:Look at his face. What seed are we planting?
Mac:Look at his face. This dude right here by his arm. A honey beetle.
Blak:Sheesh. That's my that's my church money. That's my my my money. What you doing?
Obnoxious Phone:This
Mac:is that was the money I was gonna use to go to fucking Yeah. After this.
Blak:Piccadilly. You know what I mean? We got we got places to go.
Mac:Hey. Hey.
Blak:Hey. Hey. Hey.
Mac:Hey. Hey. Hey.
Blak:In a new tax
Mac:I'm in a new tax bracket now. If it costs a hundred dollars to sit up here in church.
Blak:Well, I guess I ain't sitting up there.
Mac:But I paid less and got better seats at a Padres game, bro. And it was more entertaining. It's a lot of fun on the air. So this video comes out. He comes under fire.
Mac:Right? He's just Yep. Well, shit. Everybody thinks I'm just a money hungry pastor now. But he came out with a let me bring this screen up.
Mac:An explanation on why he did what he did.
Blak:Yeah. He sure did.
Mac:Let me take, this video down. Add this. So this is his statement. Right? So let's add context to the clip on social media.
Mac:Recently, a clip has gone viral of me challenging 2,000 individuals virtually and in person to plant a seed of $20 during an international gathering held at a convention center with over 4,000 people in attendance that evening plus virtual viewers. In that same moment, I also challenged leadership to lead by example by sowing a hundred dollars. That evening, I personally gave much more. Some have taken issues with a particular moment where I instructed the ushers rather firmly to close the doors during the offering. To those unfamiliar with the church context or who may not regularly attend worship gatherings, this has been misinterpreted as holding people hostage as well as offensive.
Mac:That was never my intent. The truth is when finances are being received in any worship gathering, one of the most vulnerable and exposed times for both the finance and security teams, movement during this sacred exchange can be distracting and at times even risky. My directive was not about control, it was about creating a safe, focused, and reverent environment for those choosing to give and for those handling the resources. Unfortunately, in this social media age, snippets are easily shared without context and assumptions are quickly made without understanding the full picture. Conferences have budgets, churches have budgets, and people have budgets.
Mac:As the assigned ministerial gift for this international gathering, one of my responsibilities was to help raise the conference budget. That's not manipulation, that's stewardship. You got anything to say about that first part?
Blak:I I wanna remind our listeners, particularly the ones that are black, that black churches. Uh-huh. Usually have at least two offerings during the church service. Mhmm. There's occasionally a third offering.
Mac:And if you
Blak:go to a black church, you know what that offering is. It's the building fund.
Mac:Yes.
Blak:By the time we get to the building fund, ladies and gentlemen, in the black church, which I would assume that mister Sapp is at. By the time we get to the building fund, which I would think this is the part of the service he's talking to. He's sweaty. The building fund is normally at the end of the service where you've given everything that you have and then you feel compelled to give what you can to the building fund. By the time we get to that part of the service, I ain't got it.
Mac:It costs more to go to church than it does to
Blak:I ain't got it.
Mac:Dave and Buster's.
Obnoxious Phone:You know, I could've had a nice Sunday morning at Dave and Buster's for less.
Blak:For less than that.
Obnoxious Phone:And gave shit back.
Blak:And you calling this shit a seed like, fam, this seed ain't got it ain't sprouting my guy.
Obnoxious Phone:Yep.
Blak:I ain't I ain't got what you I ain't got what you're
Mac:looking Bro, as a kid, because like you said, there's two, right? There's tithes and then there are offering, right? Yes. So tithes, you're supposed to give one tenth of your check to the Lord. Yes.
Mac:And then after the tithes, anything after that's the offering. I remember being in church and I'm sitting towards the end of the row as the ushers doing the thing. So my dad would write a check, hand it down and be like, put this in the basket. I'm like, fam bro, this is a $230 check. And we just, all right.
Mac:And then the offering come and then he'd put like $40 in there. I'm just like, so when I was asking for some shoes, we ain't had it. We had McDonald's money, but I just seen you put $230
Blak:Absolutely. Absolutely.
Obnoxious Phone:And let's not, I live in the house.
Blak:I know the funding approach. I know where the funds are going, dad.
Mac:You giving this money like we straight. The seeds you've been planting, I remember the first time I'm like, this how much we've been given this whole time? Because he tried to fold the check and put, give it to me. And my, this how much we've been, come on, put that thing in damn basket, right?
Obnoxious Phone:I'm like, for somebody to see
Mac:a middle class, because at the time I saw that check, he was like a E6, E7 in the marines, right? Back in the eighties, right? I'm just like, yo, this is wild. You're asking my dad to give this much of his check family of five. Yep.
Mac:And then send another one to talk about now it's the offering, give give what your heart you know, but they throw that stuff to make you feel like you have to give they're like it was the offering exactly the tithe is the mandatory. The offering is the whatever you can do. Yeah whatever you can if you go exceedingly abundantly above you know the blessings will and just boom, vroom, vroom. And I'm just like fam. My lunch card is on E.
Blak:Bro, I
Mac:I The school is sending you things like, hey, you wanna pay your kids lunch tab? He's like $10 behind. He just threw like 40 into this thing at church, you know, but hey, when that seed comes, we finna be rich. Yeah,
Blak:we capitalize it, baby. Swerve in that corner, woah, woah.
Mac:You know, shit about to be lit.
Blak:Hell yeah.
Mac:Still waiting for a maybe the blessings are something else that's not financial. But the whole point that they're telling you is you'll get it back this many fold, 10 fold, 20 fold.
Blak:Yes.
Mac:I'm waiting for that. So like when I was going to church after I moved out, I never gave tithes. It was just whatever offering I had. Here's $40. Yep.
Mac:Aren't your checks? Here's $40. I could take it back.
Blak:Yeah.
Mac:I'm not tithing. Because the way my budget and my finances is set up.
Blak:Man, I ain't tithing because this church still look the same. What is we tithing?
Mac:Brother Man, I used to think the comedians only used building fund as a joke. It was that joke, until I went to a church they had a building fund. Bro, every church I've been to had a building fund except the chapel on a base. And that's because it's government funded, they don't really need all that stuff to
Blak:put lights
Mac:and
Mac:shit
Blak:Right,
Mac:right. But every church I've been to off base, I'm just like, we're gonna build a new building. Like this building looked pretty good to me, fuck
Obnoxious Phone:we gotta build another shit for. Like this shit, congregation ain't that big, but we need a bigger thing like,
Mac:because you get that new building, it's gonna be more money to run AC and all that other shit. This, y'all shooting y'all shot?
Obnoxious Phone:Y'all want
Blak:the high-tech audio equipment and ain't nobody here
Mac:on Ain't nobody here to use
Blak:We have top state of the art audio equipment,
Mac:music instruments and everything. We ain't got but two people on the praise team. One play drums, one play bass.
Blak:That's so accurate, though.
Mac:And then we got, like, 25 professional tambourine players in the congregation.
Blak:That's bringing
Obnoxious Phone:they old tambourines. Yeah. The half crescent the crescent moon ones. So, you know, they was nice.
Mac:We're not making this shit up, ladies and gentlemen.
Blak:No, this is an absolute fact.
Mac:But to continue his thing, he says, now allow me to give you some biblical context, not opinion, not tradition, but scripture. At first Chronicles 29, we find a powerful moment where David preparing for the building of the temple challenges the people to give. He starts by giving his own treasure over and above what he had already set aside. He calls on the leaders to do the same. What happened next?
Mac:The people gave willingly and generously. In fact, they gave so much that a record was kept of each gift. And ultimately, David had to tell the people to stop giving because the need had been exceeded. The Bible says they gave gold, silver, bronze, iron, all of that stuff. So when someone hold up.
Mac:But because the people needed to show their commitment, the vision and because stewardship, like, don't see nothing about them getting anything back in return.
Blak:It don't, it don't. But to that point, let me quote something Jesus said.
Mac:Okay.
Blak:Giving should be done with a generous heart motivated by love. Mhmm. And a willingness to serve God rather than recognition.
Mac:Uh-huh.
Blak:Nothing. Never did Jesus say. Give this much give, let's let's everybody come together and give. If you got it, give it. But make sure it's it's it's done out of love.
Blak:Not out of something that you want to come back to you. So that that should be what we all follow. And when people go to the scripture, I love it because
Mac:because there's another scripture. They go to this Old Testament stuff. And they don't go to the new testament. That this is Right. This is two point o.
Blak:Exactly. This
Mac:is bible two point o. You gotta go with the newest the newness.
Blak:Actual because y'all gotta remember.
Mac:The actual son of God came in Yes. And said Yes.
Blak:The world was so fucked up in the Old Testament that God had to send his son to save you.
Mac:My man was like, David was out here smashing like having other, like having legit married couples killed so he could smash the wife. And y'all, this the dude y'all keep quoting and running to.
Blak:He was a great man.
Mac:My man saw Bathsheba was just like, hey, he gotta go.
Blak:Yeah, put his husband on put her husband on the front line.
Mac:Yeah. That lame gotta fucking kick rocks and be under rocks.
Blak:Yeah.
Mac:I heard about your ass.
Blak:How good can he fight?
Mac:My condolences.
Blak:Oh, he's trash.
Mac:Frontlines.
Blak:Yeah. Frontlines.
Mac:Sir, he's an archer.
Blak:Test him. He's one
Mac:of our best archers. He's usually in the rear.
Blak:Nah, put him in the front.
Mac:I think y'all are sleeping on the scales. I think think he's greater than that. Go ahead, give him give him that sword and put him in the front.
Blak:He died immediately? Shit. Better go visit his wife. Give her my condolences.
Mac:Sir, would you like for us to sit? No. I'll go myself. I feel I I absolutely have to. I absolutely have to.
Obnoxious Phone:But this is the dude y'all keep running to
Mac:to to to David did this. David also killed a husband this week and smashed the wife. We doing that too? Since?
Obnoxious Phone:That's my thing,
Mac:everybody be like the scripture says this, uh-huh, did you read the New Testament to see if there was any updates to that We
Blak:don't to quote New Testament man.
Mac:Nah, nah, nah, nah. Y'all about to be out there just sacrificing goats and stuff and God said to sacrifice your fattest calf to me, know, hey, come on man.
Blak:I ain't got one of You
Mac:got a hundred dollars? That's the same.
Blak:Plant that seed.
Mac:I can't. Plant that seed. The guilt trip they try to give people, anybody can give $20 you give $20 And I'm like, so what am I getting in return? Because the church is literally giving me nothing back.
Blak:Right. What if I just happen to bring my homeless friend, like who I saw him on the streets. He'll be ashamed. I saw him on the streets this past Friday. I'm like, man, we gotta get you together.
Blak:Let's go to church this Sunday. We'll figure this out. I know he ain't got $20 but you want him to go like you just ruined this experience for him.
Mac:And and the the fact you're sitting there challenging these people, turning around, looking at the people behind you, you're giving a hundred dollars for you to live out of here. I'm absolutely, you are positioning yourself to be hella embarrassed sir. Yeah. Put the baskets up here, I need to see people move, You gonna see me right in my seat like this.
Blak:And
Mac:the people next to me, excuse me, can I go around? Yep. Go around the other side, because they gonna see I ain't moving, challenging me. And then right when I leave out of here, I'm gonna spend a hundred dollars on something crazy. Just because you just that defiant bro, like you just give with a grateful heart, give what you can.
Mac:Just pass the thing around so it's not shame, people aren't being judged when they stand, if somebody doesn't get up and walk up here. And then you looking at the money as they're putting it in the baskets to make them even more pressure to try to get, that is Marvin bro,
Blak:That's crazy work. Marvin. That's crazy work.
Mac:Come on bro. Wasn't he in commission? Yeah. Come on bro. You one of the greats man.
Mac:Yeah. You're one of the greats. I know you got the money to cover whatever it was that conference needed. That's how
Blak:you said Whatever it was.
Mac:God gave you that talent, ability to sing, make that money, tiny desk, all of that stuff. You could have blessed them people by handling all the expense. But you out here like, hey, you gotta give this. I personally gave more. How much more?
Mac:Since you telling everybody else what they supposed to give, what did you give?
Woman Interviewer:Dollar Dollar
Mac:bro. What did you give Marvin?
Blak:Did you get 40,000?
Mac:Yeah.
Blak:Because, I mean, like, if you if you ask him for that, at least match it.
Mac:His name's on your prayer card, so that's your bill.
Blak:Hey. Pay pay that bill,
Mac:Whatever the congregation gives, you're like, I'm a match
Blak:it. Right.
Mac:Do something like that. I still wouldn't give anything, but I'm just like, god, that's cool. But this whole, I'm challenging you to do this, Close the doors. I wanna see people move up here. I need to see a thousand people.
Mac:Bring the baskets up here. Don't pass them things around. I need to see people put money in here.
Blak:Like, you need to see a a thousand people moving. You better have
Mac:Jesus on the Thousand people move to this exit. I don't know if you got the the ushers had the training that the the capital guard had on that January 6, but hey, if if I had them white gloves and that that usher badge on and that's all them people running to the door, I'd open it. Hey, have a nice day. God bless
Blak:Hey, this pair going off real quick.
Mac:Right. My gloves coming off. What you trying to do, Pastor? Hey, I'm turning in my resignation.
Blak:Not for
Mac:Turning my resignation in right now of ushership, retiring, undefeated on top, you know? Yep. Yep. Y'all have fun.
Blak:Clean record.
Mac:Clean record. Yep. But Marvin, man, this was this was not a not a good look for you, man. I don't think
Blak:it's good You your way to Who's Man's, bro.
Mac:Yeah. And this explanation did not do you any favors. Because even I don't think if you let the whole clip play out, you would have been justified in doing that shit. Been in churches where Juanita Biden's been preaching and people are just slinging money all over. We ain't locked, no doors or nothing.
Mac:I have never seen like if there was like a rash crime spree of like churches being run up on during their offering sessions, okay, know, lock and close the doors. The way he was explaining it made it sound like it's a thing that happens.
Blak:This is a precious moment in which There's
Mac:a lot of fun.
Blak:Bro, that's like, wow. That's wild.
Mac:He said when truth is when finances are being received in any worship gathering, it is one of the most vulnerable and exposed times for both the finance and security teams. What is the security team in church?
Blak:Right. The ushers? Two deacons, bro. Two.
Obnoxious Phone:And they old as fuck.
Blak:Facts.
Mac:Deacon Johnson ain't security, bro.
Blak:The oldest deacon that's sitting that's the security. The oldest dink in that's sitting by the door. Right. You know what I mean? Like
Mac:Movement during this sacred exchange. Sacred exchange. But it's a financial transaction, bro. And it's not even tax write off.
Blak:No, it's not. I wanna know what they needed $40,000 for.
Mac:Come on, buddy. You see Tenet Copeland and them on them planes?
Blak:Bruh.
Mac:Bruh, I think, bro, Marvin Sapp paid NPR for that tiny desk session. I don't think NPR reached out to Marvin Sapp, it was just like, I mean, you just had Doceo, the list of people who are in line that you could put on, like that would do a Tiny Desk and all of a sudden it's just like Marvin Sapp's here.
Blak:For what?
Mac:For what? Exactly. Like, I feel Marvin Sapp reached out to NPR was like, Hey, I can give you some money for a tiny desk. And he was just like, I need this money back.
Obnoxious Phone:You know what I'm saying?
Blak:That's just I gotta recoup.
Mac:That's just me.
Blak:I gotta recoup this, yeah.
Mac:Because I'm like, there are people who are like, I'm sure like, NPR, tiny desk's a sacred spot. Like you get a tiny desk segment, like people are just like, you on your way, or you already made it. Right. And you're just coming back doing some clack. Like people are hitting NPR up, like you need to get this person, this person.
Mac:I don't think nobody hitting NPR up was just like,
Blak:Marvin's We need Marvin's side.
Mac:I just need to hear, never would have made it.
Blak:That's it.
Mac:Now, if you got commissioned to do a Tiny Desk, I'd be all for that.
Blak:Hell yeah.
Mac:And I put it in the comments or when I posted it, it was What you call it? Cause his song is Never Would Have Never Would Have Made It Would Have Made It With And they played this in basic when I went to the chapel, fan.
Blak:Tears.
Mac:Miss home so much. The ugliest cry, the weirdest noises.
Blak:Snot. Up in there looking like Will Smith in Pursuit of Happiness, just
Obnoxious Phone:And it wasn't just you, it was everybody in your Everybody in your fight.
Blak:That's a fact.
Mac:Everybody caught that boy. Everybody's saved. Everybody's saved the first two Sundays of basic. And then you find out that TI don't show up when chapel's going on, then niggas are staying back in it.
Obnoxious Phone:Motherfuckers hanging back in the bay like,
Mac:hey, you're not getting up for church?
Obnoxious Phone:Hell fuck no, I'm not getting up for church, bro. It's an extra thirty minutes to sleep.
Blak:I'll be alright. We got a free one. Shit. Take my time. Yeah.
Mac:But I was joking like, he woulda did that shit. Never woulda paid it.
Blak:At all.
Mac:Never woulda paid it without.
Obnoxious Phone:You lost me, dawg. Because now I
Mac:see this is a conspiracy. Somebody escort him out of here. Yes. Thank you. My job here is done.
Blak:Y'all be easy. Yeah. Everybody
Mac:else join oh, that's how you get out? Never would've paid a head. Everybody starts singing along. Never, never. It's fucking chorus, the choir just starts in the back.
Mac:The choir behind them starts singing it. All right, cut the film, cut the film. But Marvin Sapp. Welcome. Does this beat out Steve Smith?
Blak:Oh, this is a good one.
Mac:This is a good Does this beat Steve Smith?
Blak:No.
Mac:Because he used to go in standard this year so far.
Blak:Yeah, yeah. Steve's still up there, bro. Steve might've won it.
Mac:I'm sorry. That alone.
Obnoxious Phone:Those two
Mac:words solidified Steve in the hierarchy of whose bands is this. But Marvin, this is up there. I would say if we had a podium, that you'd be on the podium. You'd probably be third place right now. You'd probably be third.
Mac:Second place so far this year? I
Blak:think Marvin might be second bro.
Mac:Marvin's second?
Blak:Yeah. Marvin Wallen.
Mac:Who would be third then? Snoop, Nelly, the pastor from Detroit. Jason Whitlock?
Blak:Snoop Third.
Mac:Snoop is third?
Blak:Oh, I forgot about Jason. I forgot about Jason's third.
Mac:Jason Whitlock still up there? Peanut butter skin in those big That Lord Jesus. That motherfucker.
Blak:Blood pressure.
Mac:Come off that butt of scotch skin. Them cans.
Blak:Oh, my mad damn, that sounded like Uncle Ruckus, man. Hold on now, you got it, them cans and
Mac:Lord Jesus, them cans. But yeah, I mean, that's my top three too. I still got Jason second and Marvin third. But I mean, we still got, you know, nine more months to go. We'll see what I mean, anything is possible in this day and age.
Mac:Be low key could have threw a, know, old buddy, you know, share war plans with a, They was using signal, they thought it was secure. End to end encryption, they're just like, Bro, nobody. Let me tell y'all right now, hold on, let's go to regularly scheduled programming, and we'll just dabble through that real quick. The motherfuckers thought they was on some shit, bro. And now we return you to our regular scheduled program in progress.
Mac:Let me tell y'all about Signal Man. As a first sergeant, wanna know how many people come up to me telling me they caught some infidelity going on. And the choice of messaging that the infidels, the cheaters that were using was some kind of wild thing that always promised end to end encryption. But it don't matter what the encryption is, if you ain't checking who you sending the motherfucking messages to. That's just square what?
Mac:Like you ain't looking at who's all in the group chat before you send the shit?
Blak:Nope. We just going along with the shit, bro.
Mac:Yep. Then you trying to delete it and it just deletes it. Do you
Blak:wanna- Fuck, fuck, fuck,
Mac:fuck. Yep. Notice that this will delete it just for you, not the members of the chat. You just say, it's a wrap.
Blak:Yeah, it's a I'm cooked.
Mac:Right, at least three. Three on signal and two on WhatsApp. Always promising end to end encryption. I'm like, your spouse isn't trying to hack into your chat. You leave the fucking shit open they see it they get screenshots.
Mac:Like it don't, China, nobody's trying to hack your fucking side piece chat. You just need to fucking be smarter with how you do it. That sounds horrible, but that's how they're getting caught. So it don't matter what you're You just gotta look, who am I sending this to, And how am I locking this down so nobody else can see it? Apparently that's not what's going on up there.
Blak:Word of the week is comm sec,
Obnoxious Phone:motherfuckers. Everybody, I'm just like,
Mac:is it just active duty that has to take the training? And not all federal Is
Blak:it not all federal employees?
Mac:Incognito mode is also not encrypted. Nope. Nope. Good things, man.
Blak:They can recover the messages too. The fact that they not saying like, they not even denying they sent the messages. That's the
Obnoxious Phone:wild part.
Blak:It's like, we did it. We did it.
Mac:And here's the thing. They bad. We'll get to the bottom of this. Elon, head up the investor. Elon?
Obnoxious Phone:Fam. This motherfucker went from making Tesla cars to now investigating A man.
Blak:We're investigating class fighter, bro.
Obnoxious Phone:Is he the choice? Don't we have three letter agencies?
Blak:Bro, you have the director of the FBI, the national security intelligence officers. You have all these people at your disposal. But nah, we're gonna fucking call Elon. What the fuck? Like, what?
Mac:He'll head up this investigation.
Blak:What'd you find, Elon? Surprisingly nothing. Bro, cooked. Cooked.
Mac:My man from the Atlantic was just like, bing, the hell is this going? Absolutely have share this. I absolutely have to
Blak:share this. That motherfucker's a savage bro, because he was like, man there's gotta be some bullshit. Until he found out that it wasn't, then he was like, I'm telling.
Mac:Hey, shout out to The Atlantic because they do that little thing like, Hey, my man sent me this, this is how I feel about it. You click on it, it gives you a preview. To read the rest, subscribe to the, oh you motherfucker. Let me go ahead and pay this $5
Obnoxious Phone:Let me pay this, let me pay $5 to read this one article because
Mac:I ain't never coming back after this shit.
Obnoxious Phone:Right. So I'm a pay this $5 cancel it right after I
Mac:read this hoe. But you got me. The Atlantic came up bro.
Blak:The wild part about it is like, he played that shit masterfully too, because he was like, I ain't gonna say shit. And then I was like, they started attacking this credibility. And there's like, ain't nothing classified. There's no classified. So this motherfucker was like, oh, well, if it's not it's not classified information.
Mac:Hear ye. Hear ye.
Blak:Here you go.
Mac:Let it be known. The March 26 shit.
Blak:Yeah. We did that.
Mac:The year of our lord 2025, war plans.
Blak:There's nothing classified. Bro, I there's so much stuff that you could pick out of that thread Mhmm. To make it classified.
Obnoxious Phone:Mhmm.
Blak:It's like, bro, it's
Mac:Who declassified this information?
Blak:Right. Why?
Mac:And what was the reason of declassification?
Blak:Exactly.
Mac:There's training we all take on this shit. I've seen people get in more trouble for leaving a a cryptographic advice device in a OM that's already in a secured area.
Blak:Exactly.
Mac:That people who have the correct clearance to access that find it, but because they was just misplaced, people was getting paperwork for that. This is
Obnoxious Phone:this is way different than crypto for a tattle a. Yes.
Blak:Absolutely. I'm
Obnoxious Phone:a put that out there.
Mac:I find a kick in a o m, I'm just like, damn, somebody getting that Lisa.
Blak:Somebody fucked.
Mac:Somebody getting a NFC, dawg. I find a authenticator thing out, somebody getting some paperwork. War war plans, strategies, We'll just it's not classified, so it's cool. But we'll find out who leaked this stuff out. Why are we doing investigation if it's unclassified information?
Blak:Yeah. Exactly. The investigation? Then don't fucking worry about it.
Mac:But, hey, I'm just me. I don't wanna have to print out my certificate and show you that This
Blak:shit you noticed, man.
Mac:I don't wanna print out my certificate and show you that I'm trained up.
Blak:Derivative classification is at the point where I don't even I can just click through the slides and answer all the
Mac:Hey, all the answers are on Quizlet. You can look that shit up, knock that cybersecurity thing out. It ain't that hard up there, man. I'm just giving y'all a heads up. I know y'all are new in the seats.
Mac:I know y'all was doing Fox News and all that stuff, but here in the federal aspect, man, there's things you you know, certain things you can't do. So
Blak:One might say that that makes you not qualified for that position, but that's another conversation. It's another conversation.
Obnoxious Phone:So if they're not qualified, how do they get the job?
Blak:Beats me.
Mac:Okay. Sounds like some DEI type shit. People getting into positions that they didn't earn. Right?
Blak:We could call it that. I mean, that's the definition that they win win. Right?
Mac:I I don't I don't know. I don't know. I just be, hey. I just come to work, log in, do my required training to ensure that I'm keeping classified information safe, but that's neither here nor there. I do wanna say before we wrap this up, shout out to Orlando Brown.
Blak:Oh, yeah.
Mac:Who I've been playing his Orlando Brown probably has the bop of the year out right now. And I use bop because it's a little it's a little bouncy, little two minute song or something like that. It's not a full song, so it's not but it's a go check. I know everybody was on his on his head because he was on whatever he was on before.
Blak:He's still on it.
Mac:Is he? Yeah. Don't say that to my boy. Don't say that about my man.
Obnoxious Phone:He got a song out right now. And I would love to play it,
Mac:but you know how YouTube be acting, so we ain't doing that shit.
Blak:Yep. Yep.
Mac:But just go look up, go to his page, Orlando Brown. It's called Love to You. It's a nice little bop. Give it a listen. And I I I've been listening to it all day, so that's my jam right now.
Mac:But that's all I got. Fantastic show.
Blak:Very good show, man.
Mac:Fantastic show. What do you got for him, Black?
Blak:Great audience tonight. Thank you guys for tuning in. Yes, I do want to spend a welcome, a warm welcome to the network, to our newest podcast, our newest show, Cutting Edge Heroes. Thank you for coming to the network. Miss Danny Stewart, welcome.
Blak:Looking forward to working with you and everything that you got. Spring football is here. So, you'll start seeing me doing more UFL coverage this year. I'm back in the in the saddle. I just picked up my credentials today.
Blak:So. Okay. We'll be doing that. Getting ready for WrestleMania season. Got some good stuff coming down the pipeline for that for no gimmicks.
Blak:Some great brackets coming out for no gimmicks. It's bracket season so make sure we want to capitalize on that. Eat the cake anime, great show last night.
Mac:Thank you. Thank you.
Blak:Very great show. Actually, I actually started watching that. I call it Genshu. Thank you
Mac:for that. Yeah. Genshu. Yeah.
Blak:Zinshu, thank you for for recommending that.
Mac:Okay. I'm
Blak:actually on I'm I'm going to go back when we get off and I'm on episode three now. It's very it's a cool show. So, shout out to for Ethan K for recommending that. USDN just had a show right before we did tonight. Very good stuff.
Blak:But make sure you guys are tapped in. We're we're getting more movement on the YouTubes. Follow us on the YouTubes. Go look at the website. DDFN.com.
Blak:It's a one stop shop for all the the podcast. And that's jumping too. So 2025 has been a very good year for DFPN so far. We just look to capitalize on it, man. And oh, you said this earlier about the $5 tier.
Blak:Yeah. We did up it, but we made sure that we compensated you guys enough to where that $5 is worth your money.
Mac:Yeah, we ain't trying to Marvin sap you. We ain't trying to like, you would pay 3, then all of a sudden you check your account. $5. What the fuck is the So yeah, the $5 tier, that's kind of like the entry level. $5, you get everything that DFPN has.
Mac:The only thing is like the higher tier you're in, the better merch or the more the quantity of merch that you get. So like in your higher tiers, you'll start getting the shirts and the hats and stuff, you'll probably get them posters, something in the lower tiers, so forth and so on. So it's one of those things, you know what I'm saying? We just wanna make the live streaming of these things more accessible to those that are paying more. And no offense, if you're not, that's cool.
Mac:We love that you come over to the YouTube to watch the videos or over to the pages and stuff, but for those that wanna get in and have the conversation like these guys have been having with us tonight, feel free, smoke pit, we're here three out of the four weeks and then we do our first Fridays. But like I said, with the expanding that we're doing, Fallen Star or not Fallen Star, what is it? Neo-
Blak:Noxie Turner.
Mac:Yeah, Noxie Turner. That starts next Saturday.
Blak:Yeah.
Mac:Next Saturday, and they'll be streaming live, the session over on the Patreon. Now, if you wanna wait to watch it on YouTube, they'll break it down into three different episodes, however many. But if you wanna watch live and interact with the players as they're playing the game live, $5 is all it is. Yep. No gimmicks, dollars 5 is all it is to come and watch them talk about what it is and interact and ask the questions, get their opinions.
Mac:I know every time they go live, I got questions because as a casual fan, I may be tooting my horn, but I feel like my fandom is raising up because I'm looking at some of these stories and I'm just like
Blak:Yeah, like, what questions
Mac:are asking? Look at the biggest thing, I'm just like, I'm looking at Jay, and every time he faces Gunther, he's over. So I'm like, I can't see, like, what's the whole buildup of him going to mania having, I don't, can you even call it a main event? Because they're talking about the-
Blak:They're not.
Mac:That's what I'm saying. You're going for a belt and it's not a main event, but your whole name is main event Jay. Yep. Do you beat Gunther? And then what's the next the next road for you at that?
Mac:Like, what what's your story after that?
Blak:That's the that's the question.
Obnoxious Phone:They
Mac:don't have CJ jumped in. I think it was either CJ or somebody in No Gimmicks was just like, they can probably bring the rock angle back and do something bloodline wise or something. But I know Roman's already tied up with the Seth and the fucking Centimeters Punk shit. I don't know if they're gonna play that. The Gunther Jay thing is so not on my radar.
Blak:It's not because you have a And that's what we talked about on the podcast. You have a whole bunch of other stuff outshining it right now. Mhmm. So you got triple threat with Centimeters Punk, Roman, and Seth, and then you got Cody and John Cena. There's no way you're gonna be higher than both of those I
Mac:would even say
Blak:Even the women.
Mac:That's what I was gonna say, like the women, EO, Beyond, Bria, right. I would say I'm looking forward to that one more than super kicks and chest laps, you know? Yep. But we'll see, like Triple H may have something up his sleeve, you know, I ain't gonna hold him.
Blak:I hope he does. Hope he does.
Mac:I can't wait till the next episode, man, bro. DB like, Man, what the fuck, they fucked this shit up. They shouldn't let Eo get the thing. And you know, I'm a Eo fan, know, I like when she has a belt, I like her energy and stuff, but I agree, like when she won the belt like a month out from WrestleMania, I'm just like, well
Blak:You fucked up the plans.
Mac:So now it's Eo, and then all of a sudden you're like, well, Ray has to get back in there, let's just have her do whatever. So I think the plan is now Monday, Eo and Raya would fight, and then the winner of that gets the belt. Because he's like, I want my rematch, I want my rematch. They're gonna fight, get the belt, and then it could change again. Then I don't know if that, I don't know, like it's still a triple threat match then, right?
Blak:As of now it is.
Mac:Because they haven't all officially signed a contract. Right. So, Io can lose it, it can go back to Bianca and Ray again, I don't know. I'm just like, Bro, it's too close to Mania to be doing all this fucking wild ass shit.
Blak:This flip flopping, Yeah,
Mac:but that's just me, casual fan speaking, you know?
Blak:No, real fan, hardcore fan speaking, they fucking this up. They fucking this up.
Mac:All right, yeah. But not to turn this into No Gimmicks Jr, but cool. Unless you got anything else for the folks, man.
Blak:Nah, nothing, man. Thank y'all for tuning in tonight.
Mac:%. So without further ado, we'll go ahead and wrap this up. Episode 165, The Smoke Pit. As always, I'm the homie Mac, AKA your boy.
Blak:And I am bread like a king, mate. It's Kelvin Kaylee. Thank you guys for tuning in. Until next time. Have love.
Blak:Make sex. Peace.
Wakka:This ain't right.